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Re:Check Out The New Blue Screen of Death in Windows 8 by beedogs on Wednesday September 14, 2011 @06:46AM (#2995658)
I liked it when they had the STOP code and the memory dump. There was something... useful? about it.

This removes that information and replaces it with a 72 point emoticon.

Re:Check Out The New Blue Screen of Death in Windows 8 by darklajid on Wednesday September 14, 2011 @07:55AM (#2995843)
How many people in your inner circle were able to make _any_ use of that information?

I'm not sure what to think about the emoticon (don't like those too much), but I don't think something valuable to the general public was lost here..

Re:Check Out The New Blue Screen of Death in Windows 8 by dfxm12 on Wednesday September 14, 2011 @09:21AM (#2996141)
I get what you are saying, but now no one has any information about what the problem might be and how to fix it, as opposed to people savvy enough to Google the STOP code (and I think you are underestimating the current population and certainly ignoring people's ability to learn to Google error messages).

Sure, there was something psychologically jarring about the old BSOD, but without giving us any clue as to what went wrong with the computer, how is anyone supposed to be able to fix it? Is it impossible to display a STOP code in a friendly manner?

Re:Check Out The New Blue Screen of Death in Windows 8 by runjake on Wednesday September 14, 2011 @12:47PM (#2996916)
Yes, they do. People knowledgeable in Windows analyze the dump files a BSOD creates. These file have all the information needed for debugging. In addition, it's dumped in the event logs.

People on HN seem pretty quick to jump on this pre-beta release, and Windows in general, without proper situational awareness.

Re:Check Out The New Blue Screen of Death in Windows 8 by sid0 on Wednesday September 14, 2011 @09:48AM (#2996223)
- You can still google the code Windows provides.

- If you're really savvy you know how to use WinDBG and load up a memory dump.

Re:Check Out The New Blue Screen of Death in Windows 8 by jamesgeck0 on Wednesday September 14, 2011 @09:51AM (#2996229)
The STOP code is still there. It's small in that screenshot, but the bottom line reads "You can search for the error online: HAL INITIALIZATION FAILED".
Re:Check Out The New Blue Screen of Death in Windows 8 by itsnotvalid on Wednesday September 14, 2011 @10:19AM (#2996342)
Seems people are rushing to use Virtual Machine software to test drive. However most of them don't have the correct hal.dll support...
Re:Check Out The New Blue Screen of Death in Windows 8 by joezydeco on Wednesday September 14, 2011 @11:07AM (#2996521)
Are you supposed to write that down so you can search for it when the machine is done rebooting?
Re:Check Out The New Blue Screen of Death in Windows 8 by notatoad on Wednesday September 14, 2011 @12:20PM (#2996799)
yes. or i assume that 8 will have the same feature 7 does, in that on next boot it will give you a "windows has recovered from a serious error, would you like to go online to search for a solution" dialog.
Re:Check Out The New Blue Screen of Death in Windows 8 by robflynn on Wednesday September 14, 2011 @04:08PM (#2997667)
I've never actually received a response of any kind from that dialog. Weird.
Re:Check Out The New Blue Screen of Death in Windows 8 by wmf on Wednesday September 14, 2011 @11:50AM (#2996689)
When I get such an error I photograph it with my phone.
Re:Check Out The New Blue Screen of Death in Windows 8 by maratd on Wednesday September 14, 2011 @10:00AM (#2996266)
I'm sure all the relevant data is recorded in the event log, which is how it should be done. In fact, I do believe that's what the error message says in smaller font.
Re:Check Out The New Blue Screen of Death in Windows 8 by barrkel on Wednesday September 14, 2011 @10:05AM (#2996284)
Where is it recorded when the OS kernel loses access to persistent storage?
Re:Check Out The New Blue Screen of Death in Windows 8 by maratd on Wednesday September 14, 2011 @12:05PM (#2996745)
> Where is it recorded when the OS kernel loses access to persistent storage?

When your drive/chipset dies and you reboot, you'll get an error saying that no bootable drive is found. It'll be pretty obvious what happened at that point.

Re:Check Out The New Blue Screen of Death in Windows 8 by jevinskie on Wednesday September 14, 2011 @12:18PM (#2996793)
The disk subsystem can fail in software, just just hardware.
Re:Check Out The New Blue Screen of Death in Windows 8 by vogonj on Wednesday September 14, 2011 @02:38PM (#2997371)
KeBugCheckEx(), the method that displays a blue screen, dumps memory to the paging file (which is contiguous and fixed, so it doesn't need the FS driver). When a dump is about to be made, it hashes all of the pieces of the pager and the disk driver necessary to do the dump, and ensures that they aren't corrupted, then dumps. On reboot, the boot manager notices that the system died messily, and copies the paging file to a crash dump.

Now you know more than you ever wanted to about blue screens. :)

Re:Check Out The New Blue Screen of Death in Windows 8 by runjake on Wednesday September 14, 2011 @12:45PM (#2996910)
This is because the vast majority of Windows users have no clue about any of the information presented.

And the people who CAN use that information analyze the .dmp files on the filesystem. The .dmp files have the same info plus more.

Re:Check Out The New Blue Screen of Death in Windows 8 by sid0 on Wednesday September 14, 2011 @09:02AM (#2996065)
I'm pretty sure they're still going to have the memory dump.