Re:Intel removes Xinjiang references from shareholder letter
by tyrfing on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @11:28AM
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Intel doesn't have any fabs in China, the Dalian facility is for NAND and was sold to SK Hynix recently. Shanghai/Chengdu are assembly/test.
It's just Chinese politics, and a very large market. It was a huge mistake to use the term 'Xinjiang', one that other companies like Apple are careful to avoid.
Re:Intel removes Xinjiang references from shareholder letter
by network2592 on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @10:52AM
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Is there any critical non interchangeable raw material that goes into Intel chips for which CCP has exclusive global control?
Xinjiang has some silica mines [0] which may go into silicon production. Presumably, that is a critical material for Intel. Can it be sourced elsewhere? Is that the leverage the CCP has over Intel?
[0] https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3139062/u...
Re:Intel removes Xinjiang references from shareholder letter
by tlear on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @11:08AM
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Silica is not an issue. Intel executives getting kidnapped(err arrested for illegal blah blah), local managers disappearing, sudden "corruption" investigations etc.
There are 2 choices, clear out everything and everyone associated with Intel out of PRC or comply.
Re:Intel removes Xinjiang references from shareholder letter
by radmuzom on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @12:09PM
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Funny how China doing something are always in the future tense. Whereas the ones who have committed the atrocity of actually illegally detaining an executive by putting pressure on a friendly country is the USA.
Re:Intel removes Xinjiang references from shareholder letter
by swagasaurus-rex on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @12:20PM
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Weren't Canadian tourists arrested with bogus charges in response?
Re:Intel removes Xinjiang references from shareholder letter
by radmuzom on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @12:25PM
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So? A criminal country with the worst instances of human rights violations and violation of international law all across the world illegally detains the CFO of a company because of their country; and you expect that her country is not going to take action on that?
Re:Intel removes Xinjiang references from shareholder letter
by mlindner on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @12:41PM
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It wasn't an illegal detainment. The company was working with Iran. Oh and she lived in a mansion in Vancouver throughout the whole thing. I'm sure she had endured much hardship getting a free vacation for a couple years.
Re:Intel removes Xinjiang references from shareholder letter
by AnimalMuppet on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @12:14PM
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Illegally detaining an executive is not an "atrocity". Violation of international norms, perhaps, but not an atrocity. Atrocity takes a lot higher standard than that.
Re:Intel removes Xinjiang references from shareholder letter
by Paradigma11 on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @02:53PM
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Illegal by violating what laws?
Re:Intel removes Xinjiang references from shareholder letter
by thatfunkymunki on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @04:46PM
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ah yes, equating the detention of a rich person in a mansion with an industrial scale genocide operation.
Intel has fabs all over the world, including many in the US and some in China[1]. Whenever people talk about chip manufacturing they seem to only think about high-end cutting edge processes, when in fact the majority of quantity of chips produced are at non-cutting edge fabs that are spread all over the world and made by many companies that you haven't heard of, but also Intel.
However this was never about Intel manufacturing chips in Xianjing, it was about the long long tail of supply chain that goes into these ships from mines through to chemical supply companies up to industrial machinery supply and everything in between.
[1] https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000...