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Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by jc_811 on Monday January 10, 2022 @04:37PM (#29882991)
I would love to leave T-Mobile, but they are the only carrier in the US who offers such a core piece of functionality for me: International service included out-of-the-box.

I love to travel, and nothing beats being able to land in (pretty much) any country in the world, turn on your phone and have working service just like that. No SIM cards, no different numbers, no local pre-paid cards, and no crazy international fees.

As someone who enjoys work/travel for weeks to months at a time, every other major carrier is not feasible for this (think 10$/day, which becomes unreasonable when you're out of the country for 3+ weeks).

Unless somebody else could recommend another option it seems I'm stuck with T-Mobile for now.

Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by tristor on Monday January 10, 2022 @04:59PM (#29883325)
This is the only reason I switched to T-Mobile originally and the only reason I still have them. Their coverage is so poor that I get no LTE service sitting in my house in a core part of the major metro area. I'm only able to maintain them because they were an early and ardent adopter of WiFi Calling. On a recent trip in the US I had no service off major interstate highways. Internationally though, T-Mobile is amazing. I honestly wish my experience in the US was as good as my experience while traveling... there's not much point in having uncapped LTE when you get 1 or 0 bars of service, at least internationally I get great service even if it is speed capped at 256kbps.
Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by coffeecat on Monday January 10, 2022 @10:21PM (#29887036)
Does your phone support band 71 (600 MHz)? This band is only a few years old, and T-Mobile has been deploying it as their primary long-range, building-penetrable band. It's unsupported on phones made before approximately 2018.

Band 12 fulfills the same role in some areas, and is supported on most phones, but T-Mobile doesn't have a nationwide license for it.

Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by diebeforei485 on Monday January 10, 2022 @09:13PM (#29886371)
FWIW, I found the coverage to get a lot better when I got a 5G phone.
Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by _august on Monday January 10, 2022 @06:27PM (#29884587)
I now do Unlocked phone that supports eSim + Airalo app for intl data packs + Mint Mobile for the US, this works extremely well and is very cost effective.

With Wifi calling + texting, you can even use your US number internationally since it will work off the eSim data.

Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by vageli on Monday January 10, 2022 @04:57PM (#29883280)
Google Fi does everything you ask for (and works with more phones that just those that Google manufactures).
Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by bogwog on Monday January 10, 2022 @05:24PM (#29883690)
Google Fi is an MVNO of T-mobile/Sprint (last I checked anyways). so if T-mobile blocks the private relay for their network, it could affect them too.

Also, Google Fi kinda sucks. They used to be the cheapest, but nowadays you can get better prices from other services. For example, Google charges $10/gb/mo, whereas Mint Mobile (another T-mobile MVNO) charges 4gb for $15/mo, or $30 for unlimited.

Google Fi is only cheaper if you use less than 1.5gb of data per month, and the service quality is probably the same.

...and that's not even mentioning all the privacy concerns attached to Google.

Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by pkulak on Monday January 10, 2022 @05:47PM (#29884014)
The difference is that Google Fi runs at the top network priority. You can find loads of dirt-cheap MVNOs, but your data is at the back of the line if there's any congestion.
Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by Dylan16807 on Monday January 10, 2022 @06:29PM (#29884608)
Getting top priority isn't worth that much of a premium.

It's exciting to watch how many years in a row they can stay at $10/GB, and not in a good way.

Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by bogwog on Monday January 10, 2022 @09:29PM (#29886545)
If that's a concern, you should just go with T-mobile directly then. They have a $60/mo plan with unlimited data, incl' 50gb of high priority data.

Fi caps out at $60/mo (so 6gb), after which you get unlimited data for "free". However, you only get 15gb of high priority.

I think Fi is trying to take advantage of the Google brand to sell MVNO service at a crazy markup.

Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by pkulak on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @02:16AM (#29888545)
But I use 1 gig of data a month. Why would I want to double my cell phone bill for exactly the same service?
Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by RealityWinner on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @07:19AM (#29890640)
That's still $30 a month when other MVNOs will give you 4GB for $15
Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by pkulak on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @03:20PM (#29897257)
The difference is that Google Fi runs at the top network priority. You can find loads of dirt-cheap MVNOs, but your data is at the back of the line if there's any congestion.
Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by bogwog on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @05:37PM (#29899294)
What are you going to do with 1gb of high priority data per month?
Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by pkulak on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @05:54PM (#29899556)
Get my vaccination card at the entrance to a stadium. Messaging, email, access my NAS at home through my VPN. Download a podcast or audiobook. I mean, the answer to that question is literally "anything except watch videos".

My car has an "unlimited" plan with AT&T, and holy crap, it's worthless. If I actually need to do something, like, now, usually I have to turn off my phone's wifi if the car's on.

And this isn't me modifying my behavior. If I had a habit of watching YouTube or Netflix from all over the place, I'd get a different phone plan. I'm not like penny pinching here. It's just that my current phone plan works, I like how easy it is to administer, and switching providers in a huge PITA for a family of 4, so something else better be damn good.

Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by judge2020 on Monday January 10, 2022 @10:12PM (#29886943)
> ...and that's not even mentioning all the privacy concerns attached to Google.

Fi does not feed usage information or otherwise into the ad machine. See the privacy notice on https://fi.google.com/about/tos/

Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by nixgeek on Monday January 10, 2022 @10:11PM (#29886934)
Google Fi has had alternative plans to the $10/GB one for a while now. Works out to be similar (slightly less) cost than going to T-Mobile, Verizon or another carrier direct. Still very happy with the service personally but they do also block iCloud Private Relay.
Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by reidjs on Monday January 10, 2022 @05:17PM (#29883585)
As someone who used Google Fi for a while internationally, DO NOT get Google Fi! So many problems on an iPhone 7. Little to no connectivity in many places where they advertised having connectivity. This was ~2018-2020, so maybe it has improved, but I had such a bad experience with them.
Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by smm11 on Monday January 10, 2022 @06:19PM (#29884487)
I have a newfangled 5G phone that doesn't do 5G even though I'm in Los Angeles, so I was glad to switch from VZW to TMo, to make them buy my phone, then I switched back to VZW because TMo doesn't have 5G either, no matter the maps they show on TV.

I'd do Cincinnati Bell in a heartbeat, if I could.

Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by xeromal on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @12:57AM (#29888107)
If you're talking about UWD 5G, that shit is DTLA and a few other areas. Try it out! It's fast as shit when you can get it.
Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by stjohnswarts on Monday January 10, 2022 @06:58PM (#29884973)
What if you never go international? That seems like a bad reason for -everyone- to drop them.
Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by reidjs on Monday January 10, 2022 @08:11PM (#29885728)
Oh god, their service was EVEN worse in the United States!! In major metropolitan cities, in San Francisco especially! I have never had a worse experience with a cell provider. And I use AT&T!
Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by nixgeek on Monday January 10, 2022 @10:10PM (#29886923)
Google Fi has been blocking iCloud Private Relay for longer than T-Mobile. I’m a subscriber and it stopped working after the new iOS went to GA, but worked during the Developer Beta period.
Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by saagarjha on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @01:20AM (#29888227)
Works for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by ZeroCool2u on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @08:44AM (#29891348)
Have you considered Google Fi? I've used it for the better part of a decade now and its always been great, especially internationally. The plane touched down, I turn off airplane mode, and I get a notification from the Google Fi app, "Welcome to The Netherlands!"

Plus, it's primarily the T-Mobile network anyways with the addition of the US Cellular network and the old Sprint network.

Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by lancesells on Monday January 10, 2022 @04:52PM (#29883198)
I have AT&T and it's a toggle to turn it on but you're right about the $10/day. I've felt the sting many times.
Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by mabbo on Monday January 10, 2022 @06:01PM (#29884234)
When I travel anywhere for more than 5 days, I typically just buy a local sim card when I land. Usually saves a lot of money.

Sure, people can't call me on my usual number, but I see that as an additional benefit. I'm on vacation.

Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by kayodelycaon on Monday January 10, 2022 @06:11PM (#29884375)
If you’re traveling for work, not being able to use your usual number is a problem.
Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by sofixa on Monday January 10, 2022 @10:56PM (#29887328)
That's why many phones come with two SIM slots, and eSIM is starting to get popular ( on top of one or two physical slots). That way you can keep both your usual number and your local card in use simultaneously.
Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by mtoner23 on Monday January 10, 2022 @04:55PM (#29883252)
Google fi? service probably isnt as good as t mobile though
Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by r-w on Monday January 10, 2022 @05:17PM (#29883577)
Google Fi uses T-Mobile in the background. Depending on what you mean by "service probably isnt [sic] as good", you may either be wrong or be making a niche point.
Re:T-Mobile begins blocking iPhone users from enabling iClou... by ac29 on Monday January 10, 2022 @05:14PM (#29883537)
Google Fi is T-mobile service in the US (and Sprint, which T-mobile acquired).