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Re:Canon is telling customers how to override counterfeit ca... by mcv on Saturday January 08, 2022 @12:03PM (#29853568)
HP is just awful. I will never buy from them. I bought a Samsung laser printer assuming they were less awful, but now support for Samsung printers is handled by HP.

My next printer is going to be Brother; that seems to be the only honest printer manufacturer out there.

Re:Canon is telling customers how to override counterfeit ca... by kstrauser on Saturday January 08, 2022 @12:15PM (#29853703)
I’ve replaced the mix of HPs and Canons in my house and office with Brothers. They’re like, oh, you made your own toner with crayon and coffee grounds? Ok, I can work with that.
Re:Canon is telling customers how to override counterfeit ca... by GekkePrutser on Saturday January 08, 2022 @10:46PM (#29859821)
Yeah +1 for Brother. Either they just permit third party cartridges or their protection is so minimal everyone can bypass it. Cheap toner cartridges work perfectly for me.

Only issue is that the printers themselves are really hard to get now. In particular the colour lasers. If I find them it's at a crazy price. So I bought a b/w again. Must be the supply chain thing.

PS the old one was not even broken after 10 years but I got sick of not having network printing :)

Re:Canon is telling customers how to override counterfeit ca... by trevmeister on Sunday January 09, 2022 @08:06AM (#29862867)
You should buy a Raspberry PI and have it act as a network print server for your printers without Ethernet. This is what I do in office environments with similar situations. It works surprisingly well.
Re:Canon is telling customers how to override counterfeit ca... by GekkePrutser on Sunday January 09, 2022 @10:23AM (#29864005)
I tried that but it was one of those "Win printers" without local processing, and there were no drivers for ARM.

Someone in Germany made some open source drivers but it didn't work properly for me. Eventually I found a networked one on sale and I gave the old one away.

Re:Canon is telling customers how to override counterfeit ca... by kstrauser on Sunday January 09, 2022 @01:56PM (#29866222)
I had the same experience with an old HP 1200n, which was an otherwise rock solid printer, but I couldn’t get it to play nicely with AirPrint for love or money. I tried every permutation of CUPS + strange, half-baked drivers I found somewhere. I bought a little commercial print server that listed it as compatible but printed everything in 1/2 size. It was worth the price of a new printer to have one that Just Worked with my family’s devices.
Re:Canon is telling customers how to override counterfeit ca... by moepstar on Sunday January 09, 2022 @10:36AM (#29864111)
Probably easily fixed with a Raspberry Pi (probably even a Zero W or something like that) and CUPS?
Re:Canon is telling customers how to override counterfeit ca... by GekkePrutser on Monday January 10, 2022 @05:16AM (#29872664)
Tried that but it had too quirky drivers.. Just couldn't get it going properly. It was one of those $50 printers that renders everything on the client. Brother actually did provide Linux drivers (which is amazing compared to the likes of HP, Lexmark etc) but not for ARM, only intel.

Eventually someone made open source drivers but half the time the printer wouldn't respond.

It's now in the hackerspace where they use it for making overhead sheets for PCB printing. So it's still having a purpose in life, I didn't throw it away :)

Re:Canon is telling customers how to override counterfeit ca... by Natsu on Saturday January 08, 2022 @12:42PM (#29854052)
Yeah, I got a Brother laser printer about 10 years ago. Still works just fine. I think it has the original toner in it.
Re:Canon is telling customers how to override counterfeit ca... by GuB-42 on Sunday January 09, 2022 @03:41PM (#29867130)
Mine is 20 years old, it is a HL-1250 with an cheap ethernet dongle on the parallel port. I changed the drum and toner 3 years ago, third party, 30€ for both, works perfectly.

I guess my next printer will be a Brother, if I ever need a new printer.

Re:Canon is telling customers how to override counterfeit ca... by doubled112 on Saturday January 08, 2022 @07:07PM (#29858137)
I have a black and white Samsung laser (SCX-3200) that just went and went. It's in the garage. USB only, generic PS and PCL emulation, $5 refill kit available where the only gotcha was you need a chip that always reads full.

I was really disappointed when HP took their printers over.

We replaced it with a color laser (Canon MF632Cdw) because my wife wanted to print sewing patterns, and I'm not near as impressed with it. No real problems, though, other than the mess that seems to be UFR II on Linux.

Re:Canon is telling customers how to override counterfeit ca... by jdlshore on Saturday January 08, 2022 @09:32PM (#29859324)
Brother is a great choice. My wife had a black-and-white for years, and I bought a color a few years ago, replacing an HP PageWide that had been nothing but problems. Both have been fantastic.
Re:Canon is telling customers how to override counterfeit ca... by sebazzz on Sunday January 09, 2022 @03:05AM (#29861317)
Brothers also reject third party toners. My dad has had multiple occasions that his Brother printer rejects third party cartridges.
Re:Canon is telling customers how to override counterfeit ca... by 2Gkashmiri on Sunday January 09, 2022 @06:13AM (#29862271)
i use an hp 5820 inktank printer. i just buy a squirt bottle once a year o so. never use its conected features or warranty account or wifi. just a dumb printer
Re:Canon is telling customers how to override counterfeit ca... by M_bara on Sunday January 09, 2022 @11:40AM (#29864831)
Yes. I can attest to brother being nice.
Re:Canon is telling customers how to override counterfeit ca... by Claude_Shannon on Sunday January 09, 2022 @04:56AM (#29861915)
Epson is also passable.
Re:Canon is telling customers how to override counterfeit ca... by f13print on Sunday January 09, 2022 @06:43AM (#29862431)
My parents got an antique Epson, must have fifteen years or more. Every time I visit, I'm so impressed that thing works totally flawlessly, compared to the PITA that is our Canon which is fuzzy all the time with the inks.