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Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by Cybergenik on Friday January 07, 2022 @11:25PM (#29848613)
Hi, this is my first post on HackerNews. Been a long time reader, this is my experience from this past summer 2021. Let me know what you guys think!
Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by GSThrowaway123 on Saturday January 08, 2022 @09:34AM (#29852000)
Throwaway account because I currently work at GS and I too have the NDAs.

Great post! I've been at GS for ~8 years and I can say this is a pretty accurate description of what a GS internship is like nowadays. These 2 points ring out as the most true to me:

1. Lots of red tape. You need to get approvals for any and all access. You're 100% right, its all regulation stuff, but its still annoying as fuck. And since there are so many approvals being requested left and right, managers tend to get swarmed and not really care too much about 99% of requests so its just a matter of chasing to get things approved. To add an annoying cherry on top one of the main systems that you request access through is a bit of a legacy system, so propagation of approvals takes a few hours, which sometimes leaves you sitting on your hands and just waiting. Its not too bad though, and in the last few years a lot of effort has been put into reducing these waiting times.

2. Inhouse building. GS suffered from this a lot, as did all the big banks in the past. All of our legacy is inhouse and it slows us down today. The good news (which you also alluded too) is that for the last ~5 of so years there have been monumental shifts in pushing us towards open-source ways (shameless plug, we even have open source roles we are hiring for: https://bit.ly/3GkJGCM ), so modern development in GS is getting much better.

My only question here which you didn't address in the blog post is: if GS offered you a permanent role, would you take it?

Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by Cybergenik on Saturday January 08, 2022 @03:43PM (#29855989)
Hey, Thanks for reading!

I'm not sure. I got a return offer to intern again for summer 2022. But I ended up taking an internship at Amazon instead. Mostly because I want to try new things and see what it's like to develop at a big company without all the red tape and just in a new environment.

But I can't say that it's completely out of the realm of possibility for me to come back. I think it would largely depend on the team. If I did come back, it'd be cool to work with one of the Cloud teams.

Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by ksec on Saturday January 08, 2022 @07:24AM (#29851016)
Great Post. Sort of very courageous too to submit it on HN. I was expecting many comments on moral principle and the usual evil company etc. It is very rare you see people offering the other side, unpopular and contrarian stories.
Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by barbazoo on Saturday January 08, 2022 @04:38AM (#29850089)
Good work arranging those words! Well done, in every way.
Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by CaliforniaKarl on Friday January 07, 2022 @11:44PM (#29848693)
Hello! I'm sorry to report, none of the text is rendering for me on Safari 15.1 on macOS 10.15. If I resize the window the text suddenly appears, but when I scroll the text disappears.
Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by Cybergenik on Saturday January 08, 2022 @12:03AM (#29848780)
I just tried it on Safari, and it seems to work for me. Maybe try and see if javascript is enabled.
Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by bahador on Saturday January 08, 2022 @12:16AM (#29848835)
Asking hners to enable JavaScript is dangerous. Many here are anti JavaScript.
Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by reincarnate0x14 on Saturday January 08, 2022 @01:48AM (#29849267)
It's less "anti Javascript" and more against "it's a great idea to base the entire web around loading completely unverifiable and uncontrolled executable code from anywhere in the universe."

Javascript is a reasonably nice language for what it does, and if it was all still mostly inline or browser managed packages or whatever the modern ecosystem would likely be significantly less of a user-hostile dumpster fire.

Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by 1vuio0pswjnm7 on Saturday January 08, 2022 @01:21AM (#29849122)
Like millions of others, this site looks great in a text-only browser that has no Javascript support.^1 If automatically running other peoples' Javascript or some other "feature" of a popular browser^2 is preventing someone from viewing the text, and the only way to avoid this annoyance is to disable the feature, then the problem is not necessary the feature, but how the feature is being used. People who disable or avoid the feature are not necessary anti-[feature]. They are trying to avoid the effects of how that feature is being used by web developers.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_(web_browser)

2. Chrome, Safari, Edge, Brave, Firefox and so on.

Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by Cybergenik on Saturday January 08, 2022 @12:18AM (#29848849)
my bad, it's a Gatsby site. Need JS :/
Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by bahador on Saturday January 08, 2022 @12:21AM (#29848867)
You did nothing wrong. No need to apologize.
Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by fake-name on Saturday January 08, 2022 @12:35AM (#29848926)
Using a site generation framework that requires JS to render static text is doing something wrong.
Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by kyawzazaw on Saturday January 08, 2022 @01:42AM (#29849244)
It is a student making an easy blog. Chill out.
Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by exdsq on Saturday January 08, 2022 @02:50AM (#29849603)
Exactly right
Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by bahador on Saturday January 08, 2022 @12:50AM (#29848994)
This is what I meant by "dangerous".

Static sites can do more than render text. Even collapsing comments on HN doesn't work with JavaScript disabled.

Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by Arnavion on Saturday January 08, 2022 @05:39AM (#29850390)
Rendering the primary text content and being able to collapse comments are not on the same level of functionality.

(Though for this particular website, I can see the text just fine with JS disabled in firefox, so I'm not sure why it doesn't work for CaliforniaKarl.)

Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by FabHK on Saturday January 08, 2022 @12:22PM (#29853772)
> Even collapsing comments on HN doesn't work with JavaScript disabled.

But everything else pretty much does. HN is nice in that one can read it (and comment) without JS.

Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by erik_seaberg on Saturday January 08, 2022 @03:19AM (#29849755)
Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by skeeter2020 on Saturday January 08, 2022 @08:48AM (#29851646)
you get to vote with your eyes and attention; if you truly want to advance your position come up with a better approach to convincing the rest of us.

If your comment was a drive-by sniping that made you feel good and has by now left your attention, mission accomplished.

Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by jaclaz on Saturday January 08, 2022 @07:34AM (#29851076)
I read your post in QTweb, Javascript disabled, just fine, so it must be something else.
Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by FabHK on Saturday January 08, 2022 @12:31PM (#29853882)
Site renders fine for me in Safari on MacOS with JS disabled.
Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by skizm on Saturday January 08, 2022 @11:18AM (#29853069)
> Maybe try and see if javascript is enabled.

I have a lot of questions. Number 1: how dare you?

/s

Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by fake-name on Saturday January 08, 2022 @12:37AM (#29848936)
Why does a site with content consisting only of static text require js AT ALL?
Re:My Experience as a SWE Intern at Goldman Sachs by crikeym8 on Saturday January 08, 2022 @12:19AM (#29848850)
I shouldn't need JavaScript to read text