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Re:Nobody Pronounces the 'B' in 'Debt' by islon on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @08:16AM (#29794345)
Non native speaker here. I always pronounced the b in debt and in doubt.

Learned something new today =)

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Re:Nobody Pronounces the 'B' in 'Debt' by napsterbr on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @08:42AM (#29794583)
Non-native speaker as well. I recently noticed the "b" is supposed to be silent, but then every time I say "debt" without the "b", phonetically I'm saying the same as "that". They sound the same to me, at least.

This is probably related to the fact that "bad" and "bed" sound exactly the same to me.

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Re:Nobody Pronounces the 'B' in 'Debt' by neutronicus on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @10:39AM (#29795901)
Related, yes, but the "th" in "that" should sound different (tongue touching edges of both top and bottom teeth, extending just past) from the "d" in "debt" (tongue touching roof of mouth just behind front teeth)

The vowels are tougher, though. I didn't appreciate how many different vowels there are in English until I married a woman whose native language doesn't have most of them (Hebrew doesn't have the "a" in "bad", the "i" in "grin", nor a bunch of weird regional American "o" sounds)

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Re:Nobody Pronounces the 'B' in 'Debt' by jraph on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @10:48AM (#29796032)
Do you here the same thing when listening to the US or the UK pronunciation of those?

https://www.wordreference.com/definition/bad

https://www.wordreference.com/definition/bed

(then yes, I guess it's coherent)

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Re:Nobody Pronounces the 'B' in 'Debt' by Ancapistani on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @11:23AM (#29796533)
Native speaker here, from the Ozarks (US, on the Missouri/Arkansas border).

I can't hear the distinction between "pin" and "pen" unless I'm really paying attention. Even then I have to say it a dozen or so time before I can make myself say them distinctively. My birth accent is to pronounce them both mostly like "pin".

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Re:Nobody Pronounces the 'B' in 'Debt' by MathCodeLove on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @08:37AM (#29794531)
Could you show phonetically how it sounds when you say those words? Im struggling to imagine what pronouncing the b would sound like
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Re:Nobody Pronounces the 'B' in 'Debt' by mhitza on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @09:30AM (#29795100)
Non-native English speaker here. I don't know what the proper phonetical representation is for my pronunciation, but it sounds like 'kept', just with a b and a softer p.
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Re:Nobody Pronounces the 'B' in 'Debt' by xeromal on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @11:00AM (#29796225)
Like Johnny Dept. hahah
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Re:Nobody Pronounces the 'B' in 'Debt' by mcprwklzpq on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @09:56AM (#29795419)
Imagine skipping i in debit. Or just say deb - it will be close. I always pronounced it somewhat like this. [1] The worst thing is that i had heard the word pronounced by native speakers hundreds of times and did not notice. Now i am not even sure that b is there in [1]. Here is another example that certainly has b[2].

1. https://youtu.be/CZIINXhGDcs?t=10 2. https://youtu.be/Ws22Nsg1lBI&t=10

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