Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't YC list compensation for their own op...
by jedberg on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @09:56PM
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I wish California would pass this law. It would be really hard to avoid tech workers in California.
Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't YC list compensation for their own op...
by Sebguer on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @10:04PM
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California, IIRC, mandates that they provide you the pay range if you ask for it.
Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't YC list compensation for their own op...
by eyeareque on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @11:08PM
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They updated the law: you have to go through at least one interview before they are forced to share it.
Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't YC list compensation for their own op...
by Aeolun on Wednesday December 29, 2021 @01:46AM
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What kind of waste of time is that?
Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't YC list compensation for their own op...
by rocqua on Wednesday December 29, 2021 @03:38AM
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Prevent people from 'scraping' job postings by manually asking for salary range.
Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't YC list compensation for their own op...
by stjohnswarts on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @10:48PM
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That seems like a good middle ground. Generally it's one of my opening questions for contracts. I'm honest and say that I don't want to waste anyone's time and get an upfront range and give them some wiggle room.
Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't YC list compensation for their own op...
by jedberg on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @10:06PM
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Yeah after the first interview. But that's way different than with the job posting.
Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't YC list compensation for their own op...
by gojomo on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @10:15PM
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"We're so glad you asked. Our possible range, depending on the candidate, is from minimum wage to $1M/year."
Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't YC list compensation for their own op...
by joshuamorton on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @10:26PM
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If a company answers this way, it is likely that you would succeed on a claim under the California Equal Pay Act. This kind of hair splitting doesn't generally go over well.
Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't YC list compensation for their own op...
by yucky on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @10:46PM
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>The California Equal Pay Act
Does this account for the vastly different levels of output from employees? I would have to imagine nobody believes quality of work and productivity are actually equal amongst coworkers.
Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't YC list compensation for their own op...
by wilde on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @10:58PM
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Pay is more a measure of what the worker is willing to accept than a measure of quality or productivity.
Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't YC list compensation for their own op...
by joshuamorton on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @10:52PM
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If you're paying someone 3x someone else, they're probably doing different jobs, which should have different pay ranges. A range of 20%, or even 50% is probably acceptable for salary (also of note the CA and CO laws only require salary disclosure, performance based bonuses or equity award ranges don't need to be shared) based on performance in a role. A difference of 3x or 10x (or 50x as is the case above) in salary means that the expectations are different.
Re:Ask HN: Why doesn't YC list compensation for their own op...
by yucky on Wednesday December 29, 2021 @06:53AM
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Using athletics as an example, it's quite common to see the best players making $30+ million/year while their peers doing the same job (albeit not nearly as well) are getting paid half a million.
The peer pay differences are less pronounced in other fields, but why would we assume people are "essentially the same" at their output? I have definitely seen full stack developers that are "doing the same job" 3x-5x better than some of their peers in many cases, when you compound quality and efficiency. Not every company has enough people for tiered job rating buckets like Google, Amazon etc.
"this role can be performed from any US state except Colorado." Sometimes Hawaii is included.
Let me try and dig up a few of these.