You started a hellish flamewar with this comment, exactly what the site guidelines ask you not to do. You also fueled it egregiously. That's seriously not cool and will get you banned here, regardless of how right you are or feel you are.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting to HN, we'd appreciate it.

as I take a look at some of the comments in the threads about China, I wish you were more consistent with your stance, especially with comments on the opposite side of the spectrum.

Hacker News was supposed to be niche, but your inconsistency to demote threads of China (as they are consisntely upvoted), is now making Hacker News very generic.

You can ban me, I spend much more time reading than I do posting anyways.

But I know where Hacker news stands with their ulterior motives in doing so.

Almost evil.

People routinely jump to conclusions like this from the small number of data points they happen to see. Specifically, when they see something they dislike, they place a far greater weight on it, and are more likely to notice it in the first place [1]. This leads to false feelings of generality [2] and basically guarantees that everyone with passionate feelings (i.e. strong dislikes) feels like the mods are against them [3]. This is all false—it's powered by cognitive bias, which is why users with opposite passions notice opposite things and feel like the mods are against them.

Consistency is a red herring, not because we secretly side with one view, but because it's impossible. We can't moderate what we don't see, and we don't come close to seeing everything that gets posted here. If you see a post that ought to have been moderated but hasn't been, the likeliest explanation is that we didn't see it [4]. You can help by flagging it or emailing us at [email protected].

[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

[2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

[3] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

[4] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

for example,

why haven't you banned the user chunghuaming?

his account is EXCLUSIVELY devoted to starting hellish flamewars.

Your hypocrisy is in suit of the entirety of western countries.

Western Countries are now on the wrong side of history for this one.

You're jumping to false conclusions. Please see my answer here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29692971.

There is a gradient from cultural assimilation -> cultural genocide -> genocide. People quickly jump from former to the later.

Are there re-education camps? Yes. Is it cultural assimilation or cultural genocide? I don't know.

Are there genocide as we understood as Armenian genocide or the Holocaust? I don't think there are many data to support that claim. If we say these two are the same, from what I can gather, it also trivializes Holocaust.

Have you read this book? https://www.amazon.com/Red-Roulette-Insiders-Corruption-Veng...

Desmond Shum fled China with his son after his wife, one of the richest women in China, was disappeared back in 2017. He was told all sorts of things, like a bullet was put in her head, but supposedly she called him briefly shortly after the book was published (he doesn't know for sure). His son (12 years old) often cries uncontrollably, as his mother has disappeared and not contacted him in years. He gives a detailed explanation of how business and power works in China, and to say it is anything like America or other Western liberal countries would be patently absurd.

What's the connection of this to the parent?

High power is always corrupted. Even today we have Kennedy assassination, Eperstein, Assange. Desmond Shum is connected to Wen Jiabao. No 2 in China at its time. You think dealing with these people is not dangerous?

CCP is bad in different way than any other political organizations. That does not make China unique in any significant way at all.

I'm late to this thread, but this is such an egregious violation of the site guidelines that we should probably ban you at this point. It seems like no amount of pleading with you to follow the site rules is working:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29124368 (Nov 2021)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27763551 (July 2021)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26459099 (March 2021)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24319310 (Aug 2020)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22990413 (April 2020)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22781294 (April 2020)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22543721 (March 2020)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22343386 (Feb 2020)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21740392 (Dec 2019)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21667959 (Nov 2019)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20805021 (Aug 2019)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19010638 (Jan 2019)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17822100 (Aug 2018)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15270562 (Sept 2017)

As I told you last month, this is seriously not cool. I hate to ban an account with this much established history, so I'm going to give you one more chance. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and fix this.

I literally wrote: "CCP is bad in different way than any other political organizations."

When did I say they are the same as US government?

All the grandstanding and whataboutism notwithstanding, there's really no excuse for what China is doing to Uyghurs atm.

Please do not take HN threads further into generic, hellish flamewars. This sort of shallow, angry denunciation is not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it. You've broken them in other places recently, too—not cool. Fortunately your good comments are good.

You're right, that wasn't a very insightful or novel comment I made. My apologies for further fanning the flames on this topic.

Thanks for calling me out, and thanks for your efforts in keeping this place interesting..!

Appreciated!

> there's really no excuse for what China is doing to Uyghurs atm.

First make sure everyone agrees upon what happened to Uyghurs first.

China is closed to foreign examination in the sense that they do not want to show all the details. But BBC and western media decide that that's a legitimate excuse to allow manipulative reporting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS8EceIa1MQ&t=101s

You are not going to get people to be honest, if you try to force that with lies.

Does your evidence of manipulated reporting consist entirely of adjusting the saturation of an image or is there anything more substantial?

Just look at the skin of the human being in both photos - the less saturated one looks 100% more natural (unless the guy actually has orange skin). If anything the over-saturated image is more misleading than the other, more dull, image. But neither are particularly egregious.

The sympathy for the Uyghurs would be understandable, if it didn't come from a country which killed a million of their brethren instead.

This might be hard for you to believe, but there are a lot of people who have genuine and consistent empathy for needless suffering, no matter where it happens. You might not hear from us much online, because we often get crushed under the relentless cynicism your comment chillingly embodies.

Personal attacks like this are not cool on HN, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are, and regardless of how much empathy you embody.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

> But that wide stretching empathy does not exist.

Yeah, it really does.