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Re:Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech by guerrilla on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @10:17AM (#29650401)
This kind of thing is what they're talking about.

> It was determined that the bottom 80% of men (in terms of attractiveness) are competing for the bottom 22% of women and the top 78% of women are competing for the top 20% of men

[1]. https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-g...

Re:Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech by ProjectArcturis on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @10:56AM (#29650961)
So, this guy set up a fake profile and interviewed women who matched with him, without disclosing he was doing research? Ethics aside, he doesn't discuss his methodology at all. How did these interviews turn into a Gini curve? How could they, without some heroic statistical assumptions?
Re:Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech by guerrilla on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @12:24PM (#29652332)
It's been studied a lot, I just threw that up as example since it was posted here a couple of days ago. Here's one of OKCupid's own studies [1]. You can search for others that confirm the same thing over and over again.

1. https://www.gwern.net/docs/psychology/okcupid/yourlooksandyo...

Re:Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech by ProjectArcturis on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @07:30PM (#29657285)
That study shows the exact opposite of what you're claiming. The third figure shows that the vast majority of women's messages go to men they rate as less than 4/5 attractive. The last figure shows that even the least attractive men still got replies to their messages 22% of the time.
Re:Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech by JohnHaugeland on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @10:46AM (#29650814)
You shouldn't be taking pareto claims on a sample size of n=27 seriously

There are apple flavored flat earth medicine studies with stronger statistics

Re:Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech by guerrilla on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @11:06AM (#29651136)
It's been shown plenty of other places, including by OKCupid, which why I qualified with "kind of thing." It's common knowledge at this point.
Re:Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech by vajrabum on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @01:31PM (#29653200)
There's lots of common 'knowledge' in social psychology including studies done by serious reputable researchers that turns out to not be so. This is a big enough issue that it's termed the "replication crisis". So, yes, maybe. Maybe not.
Re:Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech by guerrilla on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @01:54PM (#29653483)
Being shown by a lot of studies means its been replicated a lot.
Re:Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech by JohnHaugeland on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @02:26PM (#29653859)
only the ones with valid statistics count

some guy dug up a bunch of studies done on abductions by satanists in the 1990s. remember that, from 60 minutes?

the punchline was there had never actually been such an abduction, but there were 30+ studies.

and that's replicated a lot.

the quality of the replication matters.

Re:Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech by guerrilla on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @02:34PM (#29653956)
Alright, keep that goal post moving then. In the meantime, I'll go with the best we got.
Re:Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech by JohnHaugeland on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @05:15PM (#29656179)
There's no goalpost moving. It's the same thing I said originally.

You shouldn't be swayed by inappropriately small sample sizes. Your response was "well what if I had a lot of them?" My answer was "still no."

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> In the meantime, I'll go with the best we got.

This isn't even close to the best we've got.

Re:Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech by guerrilla on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @05:36PM (#29656378)
My original claim is that something like that was true and what someone else was referring to and I gave you a lazy link, and you complained about the guys terrible methodology and replication. I told you that there are dozens of studies and data analyses (some are on huge data sets [1]) out there and your response is that oh no they have to be quality. That's a goalpost move from "this is bad" to "all those (that I haven't even seen) are bad."

> This isn't even close to the best we've got.

If you've got that then show me and I'll have a look. Until then I'm going with that studies I've seen that all seem to say roughly the same thing (despite widely varying sample sizes and quality of methodology)

1. https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-g...

Re:Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech by JohnHaugeland on Friday December 24, 2021 @03:06PM (#29677233)
> Until then I'm going with that studies I've seen that all seem to say roughly the same thing (despite widely varying sample sizes and quality of methodology)

There are none with acceptable sizes. You're just talking.