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Re:How severe are Omicron Infections? by tehjoker on Sunday December 19, 2021 @04:45PM (#29618743)
If good news happens, you don't need to do anything. If bad things happen, you need to do something fast. I don't think this is unreasonable.
Re:How severe are Omicron Infections? by redisman on Sunday December 19, 2021 @05:03PM (#29618889)
That’s what the news business would like you to think. How much action are you taking from the 100+ bad news stories bombarding you every day?
Re:How severe are Omicron Infections? by epgui on Sunday December 19, 2021 @05:42PM (#29619263)
Well I’m a scientist with 12 years of post secondary education in life science (and no conflict of interest), and that’s exactly what I’d like you to think too.

Be reasonable.

Re:How severe are Omicron Infections? by justtologin on Sunday December 19, 2021 @06:33PM (#29619743)
This is a good argument against technocracy. I want expert's views to be taken into consideration when making decisions that affect other people. I don't want them telling people what to do using the lens of their narrow technical expertise.
Re:How severe are Omicron Infections? by epgui on Sunday December 19, 2021 @06:36PM (#29619767)
I understand what you are saying, but I’m not sure I understand how it relates to what I wrote. Do you mind clarifying that?
Re:How severe are Omicron Infections? by justtologin on Sunday December 19, 2021 @06:43PM (#29619835)
What I took from the thread was:

Bad news is reported more, if bad things happen, you need to act fast so it's good to pay close attention to bad news, that's what news organizations want you to think.

And then you commented that as an educated scientist, you also think we should pay close attention to bad news. At least that's how I took it.

Re:How severe are Omicron Infections? by epgui on Sunday December 19, 2021 @06:47PM (#29619872)
Right, I see where you’re coming from.

When I wrote my comment, my intended meaning was more specific to the current situation: I really wish people would be more united in taking action in the face of an infectious disease, the transmission of which is entirely preventable in the aggregate.

Re:How severe are Omicron Infections? by tomjen3 on Monday December 20, 2021 @03:52AM (#29622661)
Covid. Covid lockdowns. New variants.

These are all things that we have to act on, as individuals. They are all bad news.

Then you have the rest of the 99.999% that you don't need to know, but you do need to know the very few stories. And for that you have to go through all the other ones.

Re:How severe are Omicron Infections? by culi on Sunday December 19, 2021 @05:17PM (#29619023)
Sure, that's generally true. But in the case of a global pandemic, I think the comment is valid
Re:How severe are Omicron Infections? by redisman on Sunday December 19, 2021 @11:01PM (#29621450)
Not really. Consuming your daily drip of numbers from the news is hardly any more actionable than checking your local public health officials guidance every quarter
Re:How severe are Omicron Infections? by moistly on Monday December 20, 2021 @02:21AM (#29622255)
Every quarter? This new variant doubles every two days. You’d best be paying a bit more than checking the PHO every three months!
Re:How severe are Omicron Infections? by scns on Sunday December 19, 2021 @05:22PM (#29619069)
If you want to read good news, you proactively look for them eg here https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/
Re:How severe are Omicron Infections? by JackFr on Sunday December 19, 2021 @09:28PM (#29620930)
>If good news happens, you don't need to do anything. If bad things happen, you need to do something fast.

That is actually a terrible heuristic. The need to “do something fast” leads to tremendous amounts of wasted time and resources and often a codified public policy that is unproductive or counterproductive.

The bias to action over inaction exists, among other reasons, because it plays out conceit that we control our own fate.

Re:How severe are Omicron Infections? by tehjoker on Sunday December 19, 2021 @10:37PM (#29621319)
Well, I'd rather try and be wrong than lie down and die and be right.
Re:How severe are Omicron Infections? by hanoz on Sunday December 19, 2021 @05:19PM (#29619032)
> If good news happens, you don't need to do anything.

There's plenty you need to stop doing.

Re:How severe are Omicron Infections? by Retric on Sunday December 19, 2021 @05:28PM (#29619116)
Can stop doing rather than need to stop doing. Suppose the crime rate drops dramatically, you could be less cautious or keep doing the same things.
Re:How severe are Omicron Infections? by tehjoker on Sunday December 19, 2021 @10:38PM (#29621324)
I was talking specifically about coronavirus. Let's not get distracted from the 800k+ deaths and counting.
Re:How severe are Omicron Infections? by Retric on Sunday December 19, 2021 @10:42PM (#29621341)
The same logic applies, you could for example continue to use a mask after COVID ends. It’s still beneficial in reducing flu transmission.
Re:How severe are Omicron Infections? by tehjoker on Monday December 20, 2021 @01:16PM (#29627947)
It's not that I disagree, it's more I wanted the convo to not get into controversial tangents.