Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

Re:Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again by itisit on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @10:54AM (#29567688)

AWS wouldn't monitor itself from a competitor, of course, but they could just as well silo a team and isolate DCs to do independent self-auditing.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again by rozenmd on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @10:58AM (#29567755)

I don't know about AWS, but I know a lot of us uptime monitoring makers use (and pay) for competitor's products to know if we're down.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again by itisit on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @11:06AM (#29567887)

Rightly so. My point is a company can self-audit without having to pay a competitor.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again by whimsicalism on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @12:03PM (#29568628)

I think that is inherently riskier because you never know on what axis you will have a failure and it is difficult to exclude all shared axes.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again by jethro_tell on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @01:43PM (#29569973)

But we're talking about a status page which should be basically static. In it's simplest form you need a rack in 2+ random colos and a few people to manage the page update framework. Then you make teams submit the tests that are used to validate SLA. Run the tests from a few DCs and rebuild the status page every minute or two.

Maybe add a CDN. This shit isn't rocket science and being able to accurately monitor your own systems from off infrastructure is the one time you should really be separate.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again by 8note on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @01:18PM (#29569612)

That applies when you use competitors too.

They could have a related outage, or even a coincidentally timed one

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again by lostlogin on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @11:24AM (#29568067)

Absolutely. And even if it’s cheaper to use the competition, an expensive custom solution will be found.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again by throwaway81523 on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @01:45PM (#29570017)

They have a bazillion alexa and kindle devices out there that they could monitor from, heh heh. At least let that phone-home behaviour do something useful, like notice AWS is down.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again by reaperducer on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @12:38PM (#29569090)

AWS wouldn't monitor itself from a competitor, of course

Why not? The big tech companies use each other all the time.

For example, set up a new firewall on macOS and you can see how many times Apple pulls data from Amazon or Azure or other competitors' APIs and services.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again by jethro_tell on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @01:45PM (#29570009)

Apple is not a competitor to AWS or Azure in any way. They offer not infrastructure/platform as a service that I am aware of.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again by reaperducer on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @04:03PM (#29571599)

Apple and Amazon are competitors. Apple and Microsoft competitors.

The postulation was that Apple and Amazon weren't competitors. Not that they're not competitors in a specific niche.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again by jethro_tell on Thursday December 16, 2021 @12:12AM (#29575176)

But the idea that Amazon or Microsoft or Google would host anything at apple is pretty out there.

Apple uses their competitor's services because they can't build their own cloud and host their own shit. The big boys don't use competitors for services they are capable of building themselves.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again by QuinnyPig on Thursday December 16, 2021 @11:10AM (#29579671)

And yet video.nest.com (Google) resolves to an Amazon load balancer.

[ Parent | on HN ]