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Re:Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their ke... by akudha on Monday December 13, 2021 @04:00PM (#29544589)
They are simply copying software industry. Tableau, Jetbrains... none of these need to be subscription based, but they are. They weren't, until a few years ago.

I wonder whats next? My toilet won't flush unless I pay $5 for it, in addition to the water bill? It would be hilarious if every single item at home was subscription based, lol

Re:Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their ke... by p_j_w on Monday December 13, 2021 @05:34PM (#29545582)
Jetbrains is only kind of a subscription. If you end your subscription, you retain permanent access to whatever version was current when you last paid. That doesn't seem drastically different from how software worked before and their prices are pretty reasonable for an IDE.
Re:Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their ke... by PenguinCoder on Monday December 13, 2021 @05:56PM (#29545787)
You mentioned Jetbrains but not worse actors like Adobe, or Microsoft. Seems disingenuous.
Re:Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their ke... by nitrogen on Monday December 13, 2021 @06:58PM (#29546374)
The OP has probably managed to eliminate Adobe and MS from their lives, so they didn't come to mind.
Re:Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their ke... by MAGZine on Monday December 13, 2021 @07:11PM (#29546496)
Jetbrains can be used without a subscription, unless if you want the most recent software updates.

It does seem like a disingenuous comparison. I feel like JetBrains has a pretty fair revenue model.

Re:Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their ke... by rswail on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @05:01AM (#29550018)
Our water rates include a supply charge, a disposal charge, and a usage charge. Only the last one is dependent on the volume of water consumed.

So in a way, we already pay a subscription charge for flushing the toilet.

Re:Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their ke... by charcircuit on Monday December 13, 2021 @08:15PM (#29546965)
>none of these need to be subscription based

But I use Jetbrain's software everyday so it makes sense that I should pay them for everyday that I get value out of it. They also are continuely releasing updates for free.

Re:Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their ke... by betwixthewires on Monday December 13, 2021 @08:45PM (#29547169)
You use your car every day too...