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Re:Show HN: Emergency Wallet Cards by wilrnh on Monday December 13, 2021 @02:46PM (#29543596)
Hey HN, EmergencyWalletCards.com is a website I built with the help of my old friend @oedmarap to help bring Emergency Wallet Cards to everyone by making it super easy for anyone to quickly fill, print and fold a card for their wallet, purse, or anywhere you can slip a credit-card into. Check out the intro blog post, try the app out, and let me know what you think!
Re:Show HN: Emergency Wallet Cards by csw-001 on Monday December 13, 2021 @03:54PM (#29544518)
This is really cool. I've worked in the Emergency Management space for a decade, and this is a clear win - great idea well executed, so kudos. Even if people never look at them, the process of creating them and thinking through personal disaster responses is hugely valuable (plans are nothing, planning is everything). Well done.

It's scope creep for sure, but I'd love have a version of this for international travel that populates local consulate/embassy offices, visa numbers, airline, hotel numbers, and personal emergency medical info in the local language. I had a coworker that would make international travel wallet cards for folks traveling abroad - it was pretty cool.

Re:Show HN: Emergency Wallet Cards by sliken on Monday December 13, 2021 @06:22PM (#29546077)
I've been surprised how many people don't know the number of their doctor, lawyer, siblings, even partners. So even a minor problem like a dead/broken phone becomes a much bigger problem. While not a real emergency the EWC can help, there's extra fields for whatever.
Re:Show HN: Emergency Wallet Cards by randmeerkat on Monday December 13, 2021 @11:42PM (#29548323)
> I've been surprised how many people don't know the number of their doctor, lawyer, siblings, even partners.

How many people…

a.) Have a personal lawyer?

b.) Need to have said lawyer on speed dial?

c.) Also need to have the lawyer’s phone number memorized in case they don’t have some way to look up the number?

Re:Show HN: Emergency Wallet Cards by stevenicr on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @03:39AM (#29549559)
Ive kicked the idea around to start a company that would attack this issue in a few different ways..

get an app or on the site, enter in some info..

an easy to remember 800 number that is answered 24/7..

the person who answers can unlock the info you saved via the app or web site - and call numbers for your X or your Y and even do it three-way / conference call.. and even call your Z or V after you hang up - to notify you've been detained or whatever.

I think people would pay for this, and it would be easy to freemium - as you could pre-roll a local bail bonds ad when called if freemium user..

I have some other ways to make this work even better with some added tech things.

could even have a set of info that is made available to paramedics / hospitals should they find your emergency card in wallet and such.

now I want to build this more, I'm guessing a premium phone number is not cheap these days, so keeping this in the ideas phase.

Re:Show HN: Emergency Wallet Cards by ISL on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @12:40AM (#29548612)
Re: c). You only get one phone call, right?
Re:Show HN: Emergency Wallet Cards by dhosek on Monday December 13, 2021 @09:44PM (#29547579)
A few years ago, I borrowed a combination lock from my wife while I went to the Y to work out in the pool. When I finished my swim, I realized I'd forgotten the combination. I called her from the pool office phone. It took several calls and a couple messages for her to pick up and answer.

I too will often not answer the phone if it's an unfamiliar number, but I do answer if it's the local area code which is not the area code of my wife's and my phone numbers since I figure it's more likely to be something legitimate like a call from a school or a local business where maybe I've forgotten I had placed an order or left dry cleaning and my stuff is now ready. If she had this policy, I would have spent less time waiting to get the combination.

Re:Show HN: Emergency Wallet Cards by gurjeet on Monday December 13, 2021 @11:34PM (#29548278)
My policy for calls from unknown numbers:

1 call: very likely spam; let it go to voicemail.

2 calls: Someone genuine is trying to reach me; let it go to voicemail. Listen to voicemail as soon as it arrives.

3 calls: emergency, pick up right away.

Exception: PagerDuty calls; pick up on first ring.

My wife is aware of this policy of mine. And I store kids’ school numbers in contacts.

Re:Show HN: Emergency Wallet Cards by 5555624 on Monday December 13, 2021 @10:07PM (#29547721)
Because no one dials the numbers anymore -- they just select the entry in their contacts list. And the contact's name (and possibly picture) is displayed more prominently than the phone number.
Re:Show HN: Emergency Wallet Cards by WalterBright on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @12:17PM (#29554229)
Before speed dial, I used to have everyone's number memorized because it had to be hand dialed.

A couple numbers I don't put in speed dial so I will remember them.

Re:Show HN: Emergency Wallet Cards by cbhl on Monday December 13, 2021 @04:52PM (#29545153)
International travel strikes me as the sort of thing where you'd want a paid enterprise subscription instead of an offline JS app, since you'd want numbers kept up-to-date. (Just look at all the airlines integrating entry/exit test/quarantine requirement iframes.)

$dayjob gives us a mobile app from International SOS, although certainly I think there's room to make the app prettier / faster / more tolerant of spotty internet.

Re:Show HN: Emergency Wallet Cards by wilrnh on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @02:28PM (#29556202)
Thank you :)

And this is a great idea (please consider adding an issue on GH); I think many will benefit from EWC using them in unfamiliar conditions such as traveling. I wonder what would be a good way to remind users to print an updated EWC before traveling.

Re:Show HN: Emergency Wallet Cards by kwhitefoot on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @03:17AM (#29549438)
I have a few suggestions that might make this more useful for an international audience.

- I suggest that you offer people the option to use long dates; 7th June 1980. When reading in a hurry a little redundancy can be helpful.

- abbreviations like DOB, ZIP, etc., are not necessarily universally understood.

- the address should be a free text multiline field to allow addresses to be written in the customary form in different countries. Not everyone has a house number or postal code.

As all the information is optional it would probably be useful to include a field for things like national ID numbers, social security numbers, etc. The point is that this number give emergency medical facilities a way to quickly access a person's medical records in some countries.

Re:Show HN: Emergency Wallet Cards by wilrnh on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @02:15PM (#29556002)
Agreed: this first release was focused on mirroring the original FEMA PDF. I would love to see the card evolve to be much more internationalized.

In fact, one of the reasons I chose to build an app around the PDF, instead of simply using PDF form fields, was to open up the possibility of rich customization. Maybe something like detecting locality preferences of the browser to customize the EWC form might be interesting.

(Also these are great suggestions, please feel free to open GH issues for them!)

Re:Show HN: Emergency Wallet Cards by kwhitefoot on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @02:20PM (#29570406)
> Maybe something like detecting locality preferences of the browser to customize the EWC form might be interesting.

So long as the user can override them. My browser language preference is en-gb but that does not mean that I want to use dd/mm/yyyy date formats. Also someone with a non-English browser preference might nonetheless prefer to use English as the language of the form if they travel outside their home country.

> feel free to open GH issues for them! Curses, now I have to do some work! :-)

Re:Show HN: Emergency Wallet Cards by stevenicr on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @03:28AM (#29549497)
I like the idea, and appreciate the privacy statement on page. I might add - your info is not sent to our servers / the cloud - it stay in your computer memory..

I feel many people do not understand what stays in your browser does not equal the cloud.. especially since chromebooks became a thing.

Not sure they pay for sales - but a link to have it sent to a printer at the local office max.. not having a printer easily accessible p it's actually convenient to send-rmail-to-print.. I stop by there after picking up coffee and print a few sheets once in a while.. I guess some people would email it to another person for them to print for them..

Re:Show HN: Emergency Wallet Cards by KennyBlanken on Monday December 13, 2021 @08:56PM (#29547245)
> making it super easy for anyone to quickly fill, print and fold a card for their wallet, purse, or anywhere you can slip a credit-card into

This is functionality that could have been done simply by adding form fields to the PDF.

Re:Show HN: Emergency Wallet Cards by enobrev on Monday December 13, 2021 @09:20PM (#29547417)
This app allows optional sections which are only included if they're filled out, which wouldn't quite work with just a PDF form
Re:Show HN: Emergency Wallet Cards by engagingdata on Monday December 13, 2021 @06:12PM (#29545988)
good idea. And a good reminder to prepare for emergencies.