Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia
by stormbrew on Monday December 06, 2021 @01:52PM
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I might be ok with "the mobile reactive version everywhere" if it didn't also lack a bunch of features. Not being able to easily get to the talk page to contextualize what you're reading makes the mobile site very frustrating.
Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia
by frosted-flakes on Monday December 06, 2021 @03:20PM
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Note that a link to the talk page has recently been added to the top of the mobile page.
Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia
by stormbrew on Monday December 06, 2021 @09:44PM
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Oh nice, thanks for letting me know! I can stop forcing it to desktop mode by default heh.
Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia
by judge2020 on Monday December 06, 2021 @02:15PM
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If it pinned the headings/outline to the left side of the article (like the extension showcased does) it'd be that much better for a responsive design on Desktop.
Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia
by account42 on Tuesday December 07, 2021 @03:19AM
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I disagree that the m. url is the most versatile because of the one-sided redirect.
Also the mobile site might be more responsive in the sense that it better scales down to narrower viewports but it does not scale up to make use of larger viewports by e.g. bringing back the sidebar and other links that are hidden behind dropdowns. That's a problem with many mobile-first designs - in reallity they are mobile-only designs.
I agree, although in the case of Wikipedia the "mobile" design is actually the one that is responsive. I want the "mobile" design on all browsers including my desktop. I believe you can actually set your default theme if you're logged into Wikipedia, but I don't know if their cookies eventually expire or what, but I often end up clicking on Wikipedia links and getting the awful "desktop" design.
All of this is just to say that, yes, they shouldn't use separate "m." URLs, but it's just as wrong to get upset at mobile users sharing "m." URLs as it is to get upset at desktop users sharing URLs without the "m." Arguably if you expect all users to always share the most versatile URL, you should expect them to always share the "m." URL since it has a responsive design.