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Re:Courts block two Biden administration Covid vaccine mandates by hammock on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @09:34AM (#29403945)
>Too often we look at the end results (e.g. will this increase vaccination rates)

Even that might not be quite the best end result to be looking for (unless you own the jab patents).

Shouldn't we be looking at clinical outcomes of covid patients, or counts of severe covid cases instead?

If we optimized for marriage rate in the world we might end up with a whole lot of unhappy couples and/or broken homes.

Re:Courts block two Biden administration Covid vaccine mandates by peter422 on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @10:49AM (#29404906)
Vaccinated people have far, far fewer cases of severe covid and far fewer deaths. What else do you want them to look at?
Re:Courts block two Biden administration Covid vaccine mandates by hammock on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @11:31AM (#29405546)
Is that true for all ages?
Re:Courts block two Biden administration Covid vaccine mandates by ufo on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @01:40PM (#29407431)
It is.
Re:Courts block two Biden administration Covid vaccine mandates by hammock on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @03:47PM (#29408931)
Do you mind sharing the data that supports that?
Re:Courts block two Biden administration Covid vaccine mandates by ufo on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @04:40PM (#29409485)
The studies that got the vaccines approved in the first place had to show that they were effecitive for all adults. I'm sure that with some digging it should be possible to find the data split by age group.

More recently, we've also gotten data for many vaccines showing that they're also effective for children and adolescents.

Lastly, another important group is the elderly. Some studies suggest that they respond more poorly to the vaccine and that the protection may last a shorter time. In response, many countries have prioritized the elderly for receiving booster shots (3rd dose).

Re:Courts block two Biden administration Covid vaccine mandates by hammock on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @04:53PM (#29409618)
>More recently, we've also gotten data for many vaccines showing that they're also effective for children and adolescents.

This is my principal area of concern. If I recall correctly, the studies that were submitted to FDA for approval for young children did not show improvement in hospitalizations or deaths, in fact there was not a single death in any of the groups, rather they relied on showing the jabs successfully produced antibodies (a much lower standard).

Re:Courts block two Biden administration Covid vaccine mandates by encryptluks2 on Thursday December 02, 2021 @05:15AM (#29414414)
Recently some of the data touted here actually showed increase death counts at times in children that were vaccinated than those that weren't.
Re:Courts block two Biden administration Covid vaccine mandates by ufo on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @05:14PM (#29409821)
> did not show improvement in hospitalizations or deaths

Well, it's not surprising that there would be fewer deaths in children. We'd need a much larger study and I expect that this data will become available now that the vaccines are started to be more widely distributed.

> rather they relied on showing the jabs successfully produced antibodies (a much lower standard)

IIRC the study also found that the vaccine was effective at preventing infections.