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Re:Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds wi... by 2muchcoffeeman on Sunday November 28, 2021 @11:08PM (#29376258)
I don’t necessarily think ad funded content is bad. But YouTube seems to do it the worst. 2 ads at the start, sometimes they can’t be skipped. Ads in between at weird places. Now there are 2 ads at the end too.

Spotify is ok. Ads. Bunch of uninterrupted songs. Ads. Like radio. Many Anime streaming services are similar. Ads bookend the content.

YouTube could have spent time curating good content and building a platform worth a damn. Instead the vast vast majority is trash. There are really only a handful of content creators that make anything good. And it seems like more and more of them have patreons or their own sponsorships. I again don’t mind these. But I have direct ways of paying the creators. And if they moved somewhere else I’d follow them.

Re:Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds wi... by mcpherrinm on Sunday November 28, 2021 @11:52PM (#29376512)
Would you consider paying for YouTube and Spotify instead? Both are available ad-free.
Re:Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds wi... by can16358p on Monday November 29, 2021 @01:44AM (#29377099)
I can easily afford that but I never want to pay a single penny to Google/Alphabet Inc. More of an ideological thing than economical, probably many have different reasons here instead of not being able to afford it.

Also, "then don't use" is not an option either as almost all the content out there is uploaded to YouTube, so it isn't like same content is available on Vimeo/Facebook etc.

Re:Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds wi... by lelandfe on Monday November 29, 2021 @07:53AM (#29379232)
Without trying to sound too puritanical, your stance sounds like a way to avoid paying creators
Re:Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds wi... by can16358p on Monday November 29, 2021 @11:34AM (#29381811)
Nope, seriously. If there were a way to directly pay the good content creators (not talking about $5, Patreon etc, but having a microtransaction everytime I watch a nice video like 0.05 each which does sum up to something similar aggregated) I'd love to.
Re:Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds wi... by strogonoff on Monday November 29, 2021 @06:04AM (#29378425)
If you pay a company built around ad revenue to remove ads in one particular product, you now have a big flag “has money and willing to pay” on your profile.

No ads on that product, sure, but very much not coincidentally you cannot opt out of all ads across Alphabet, and the flag is a very strong signal for elsewhere you will be shown ads (even if it’s not made directly available to advertisers in targeting settings).

Re:Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds wi... by judge2020 on Monday November 29, 2021 @09:44AM (#29380405)
Google had the whole 'you can outbid advertisers if you want' feature but killed it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Contributor
Re:Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds wi... by dncornholio on Monday November 29, 2021 @03:38AM (#29377596)
You know the content creators themselves can decide where they want to have ads? Also Youtube has even skippable ads, Spotify doesn't, but somehow Spotify does it better?

Your points are highly subjective dear sir.

Re:Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds wi... by 2muchcoffeeman on Monday November 29, 2021 @04:55AM (#29378007)
I didn’t know the creators themselves are setting the ads.

Yes, I would take quality content with unskippable ads that bookend what I want to watch or listen to, vs what appears to be random sometimes. Or just companies sponsoring the creators. I suppose I’m used to the old TV and radio model.

YouTube as it stands just recommends garbage. And everything has garbage click bait titles. The fact that the quality is so poor doesn’t make me want to pay for anything.

Re:Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds wi... by jandorn on Monday November 29, 2021 @07:22AM (#29378982)
That is not completely true. There are many who are not deciding on what ads are shown and have no control over it.