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Re:Update on Omicron by djbusby on Sunday November 28, 2021 @06:05PM (#29374145)
We got to zero polio. What's stopping it from happening here?
Re:Update on Omicron by adrr on Sunday November 28, 2021 @06:43PM (#29374504)
Polio was a 1st world issue.

"It's a paradox of public health that being too clean can sometimes lead to disease. For centuries, infants were routinely exposed to the poliovirus in their unsanitary living conditions. Polio rarely causes paralysis in infants, partly because of the maternal antibodies still present in their systems. In the 1900s, many countries cleaned up their water and sanitation systems, and houses in more affluent communities were routinely cleaned, reducing exposure to microbes. By the 1930s, '40s, and '50s, new mothers, especially those in the middle class, had no antibodies in their immune systems to pass on to their children. When children were exposed to the poliovirus in later years, they were defenseless against the disease."

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/rxforsurvival/series/diseases/polio...

Re:Update on Omicron by artificial on Sunday November 28, 2021 @06:12PM (#29374218)
Different type of disease for starters. No animal reservoirs either and the vaccine is effective with a single dose (and doesn’t require boosters). Perhaps we can focus on more health generally? Diet and exercise to curb the massive obesity in the western world.
Re:Update on Omicron by flatiron on Sunday November 28, 2021 @06:17PM (#29374269)
Honestly I think it’s easier to cure Covid than western obesity.
Re:Update on Omicron by chrisjs95 on Sunday November 28, 2021 @06:38PM (#29374464)
It's probably easier to cure every type of Cancer than it is to cure obesity.
Re:Update on Omicron by gus_massa on Sunday November 28, 2021 @06:29PM (#29374386)
The number and type of recommended polio vaccines depends, but the WHO recommends at least four doses: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine#Schedule
Re:Update on Omicron by artificial on Monday November 29, 2021 @12:19AM (#29376677)
Interesting. The CDC[0] in the US (IPOV insert [1]) states a single doze of 0.5ml for children and adults.

[0] https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/composition-dosag... [1] https://www.fda.gov/media/75695/download

Re:Update on Omicron by gus_massa on Monday November 29, 2021 @07:54AM (#29379244)
In https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination_schedule#United_St... it says 4 doses.

Also in your second link, in page 8 says

> All children should receive four doses of IPV at ages 2, 4, 6 to 18 months, and 4 to 6 years.

Re:Update on Omicron by incrudible on Sunday November 28, 2021 @07:34PM (#29374912)
The lack of sterilizing immunity. You can not expect your immune system to mount a permanent immediate defense against coronaviruses.

Once everybody has encountered SARS2 at least once, it may become as harmless as the other endemic coronaviruses. That is to say, not entirely harmless, but nothing to lose sleep over.

It will never go away. How we deal with that is up to us.

Re:Update on Omicron by scotty79 on Sunday November 28, 2021 @11:13PM (#29376280)
People get sick with covid multiple times. Our immune systems are just naturally not good enough to deal with this virus.

Covid will stop being a concern only after safe and incredibly efficient antiviral drug is developed, which might take decades.

Re:Update on Omicron by incrudible on Monday November 29, 2021 @01:58AM (#29377168)
You can get reinfected with all sorts of respiratory viruses. Like I said, nothing to lose sleep over.

Antivirals have a very limited window of opportunity. Nothing will make our concerns disappear. At some point, we need to move on.

Re:Update on Omicron by scotty79 on Monday November 29, 2021 @07:08AM (#29378882)
I don't think we can move on because we haven't adjusted our health services to way larger number of sick and dying people every flu season.
Re:Update on Omicron by Stranger43 on Monday November 29, 2021 @08:07AM (#29379377)
We might have to, there is no guarantee that mRNA vaccines or lockdowns will ever stop covid to to point where no one ever gets hospitalized with covid.

This is the inconvenient truth that absolutely nobody in the establishment is even remotely willing to even consider and a big part of the debate that is being replaced with an accusation contest.

What do we do when the vaccination program only works as promised by the scientists developing it, and not as hoped for by the politicians ordering it?

Re:Update on Omicron by incrudible on Monday November 29, 2021 @08:09AM (#29379400)
This season isn't finished yet, but we are seeing far fewer people sick and dying than last year. This trend is bound to continue, even if vaccines fail, if for no other reasons than the herd getting thinned out, cynically speaking.
Re:Update on Omicron by Muromec on Sunday November 28, 2021 @06:47PM (#29374537)
We didn't get to zero polio really and people in some countries stopped vaccinating children against it.
Re:Update on Omicron by edmcnulty101 on Sunday November 28, 2021 @08:33PM (#29375289)
Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-dur...

Re:Update on Omicron by spartanatreyu on Sunday November 28, 2021 @06:22PM (#29374315)
Denialism and lack of economic support.
Re:Update on Omicron by Eelongate on Sunday November 28, 2021 @10:27PM (#29376038)
It takes serious denialism to believe the covid vaccines are anywhere close to the effectiveness of polio vaccines.