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Re:New Concerning Variant: B.1.1.529 by bmeski on Friday November 26, 2021 @05:21PM (#29354825)
Yes.

How many people die in car accidents each year?

Re:New Concerning Variant: B.1.1.529 by kaba0 on Friday November 26, 2021 @05:23PM (#29354844)
Will it increase exponentially if not cared about?
Re:New Concerning Variant: B.1.1.529 by jdminhbg on Friday November 26, 2021 @05:33PM (#29354942)
Yes, car deaths have decreased by multiple orders of magnitude in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in...
Re:New Concerning Variant: B.1.1.529 by kaba0 on Friday November 26, 2021 @05:38PM (#29354975)
You can’t infer that from the graph. Yeah, they will go back to pre-pandemic levels, but they won’t increase exponentially from then on - which is not the case for COVID with no restrictions, which will only plateau at ridiculously high amount of infected (and dead).
Re:New Concerning Variant: B.1.1.529 by bavell on Friday November 26, 2021 @06:47PM (#29355531)
> COVID with no restrictions, which will only plateau at ridiculously high amount of infected (and dead).

I'm curious what you think of Florida, which has had almost no restrictions for a majority of the pandemic and yet is actually doing better than some other states. Seems to disprove your assertion?

Re:New Concerning Variant: B.1.1.529 by kaba0 on Saturday November 27, 2021 @01:29AM (#29358029)
Airborne transmission being heavily climate-dependent? We can’t make everything into Florida (and that would be a much bigger problem than any virus in itself :D)
Re:New Concerning Variant: B.1.1.529 by bavell on Saturday November 27, 2021 @11:09AM (#29361165)
I'd imagine we'd have studies on this by now if that were actually the case though, right? It's been almost 2 years... so it seems like there's something else going on.
Re:New Concerning Variant: B.1.1.529 by tclancy on Friday November 26, 2021 @08:13PM (#29356141)
No, the fatality rate has. Unhappily, every safety advance seems to lead to an increase in crashes IIRC. Which sounds about like how we in the US approach COVID too.
Re:New Concerning Variant: B.1.1.529 by dekhn on Friday November 26, 2021 @08:56PM (#29356475)
Of course. Most deaths prevented by strong safety laws.
Re:New Concerning Variant: B.1.1.529 by wwweston on Friday November 26, 2021 @05:52PM (#29355095)
An order of magnitude less than the covid deaths in a year. And yet automobile engineering and usage are heavily regulated in order to improve safety and reduce fatalities.
Re:New Concerning Variant: B.1.1.529 by CorrectHorseBat on Friday November 26, 2021 @05:56PM (#29355130)
In Sweden? ~300 [1], so about 40 years worth of traffic accidents.

[1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/438009/number-of-road-de...

Re:New Concerning Variant: B.1.1.529 by malermeister on Friday November 26, 2021 @05:50PM (#29355081)
And that's why I'm unironically for banning cars in the long term. They're a terrible mode of transport, trains and bikes are all we need.
Re:New Concerning Variant: B.1.1.529 by bavell on Friday November 26, 2021 @06:52PM (#29355577)
Hmmm, I take it you live in a city? You may not need anything other than a train or bike but other people have different needs.
Re:New Concerning Variant: B.1.1.529 by malermeister on Friday November 26, 2021 @07:38PM (#29355912)
So I actually live in a small town of 800 people somewhere in Europe. I can take the train if i need to get anywhere further than is comfortable by bike.

I understand that's not currently the case in a lot of the world, which is why I think cars need to be banned eventually, not right now.

Re:New Concerning Variant: B.1.1.529 by bavell on Saturday November 27, 2021 @11:06AM (#29361143)
That's fair, although instead of banning them I'd prefer to just have better alternatives that people naturally transition to. Cars are certainly not a very efficient mode of transport.
Re:New Concerning Variant: B.1.1.529 by flunhat on Friday November 26, 2021 @05:35PM (#29354959)
This kind of logic is, more or less, why Trump lost -- people (rightly so) don't like being told they have to sacrifice themselves for the economy