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Re:Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant... by hh3k0 on Friday November 26, 2021 @03:50PM (#29353978)
> Will people ever get over sensationalism and learn to live it?

You see, that's the crux of the matter: Not everyone can live with it. Literally. So far, it killed more than 5 million people globally. There is also the issue with possibly lasting brain damage (even occuring in cases that weren't severe enough for hospitalization) and life-wrecking long covid. Compassionate people have a problem ignoring all that.

Re:Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant... by umanwizard on Friday November 26, 2021 @04:20PM (#29354240)
Assuming you're going to live for 50 more years from today, wasting a year of your life is only worth it if it prevents a 2% chance of death.
Re:Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant... by andybak on Friday November 26, 2021 @07:45PM (#29355948)
I haven't wasted a year of my life. I've slightly modified my behaviour. I've done some things less and other things more.
Re:Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant... by TechBro8615 on Friday November 26, 2021 @05:21PM (#29354815)
This assumes every year of life has equal worth.
Re:Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant... by umanwizard on Friday November 26, 2021 @06:11PM (#29355257)
Indeed. If you assume that earlier years are worth more, the point is even stronger.
Re:Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant... by hh3k0 on Saturday November 27, 2021 @03:25PM (#29363044)
Your calculation needs to take loss in quality of life due to a) contracting long COVID, b) suffering a COVID-induced stroke, or c) living with brain damage post-COVID into account. Furthermore, you should consider that mutations will run rampant if laissez-faire policies are implemented; a variant with increased lethality might come along and cut your life short.
Re:Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant... by proactivesvcs on Friday November 26, 2021 @08:40PM (#29356341)
Multiplied by however many hundreds of people one encounters over a year, perhaps your numbers need work.
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Re:Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant... by CyanBird on Friday November 26, 2021 @04:46PM (#29354490)
I know 5 people personally that have died of this virus, forgive me if I take offense at your hand waving of it
Re:Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant... by johncena33 on Friday November 26, 2021 @11:28PM (#29357413)
I know 2 young perfectly physically healthy people personally whose mental health deteoriorated to the point that they became suicidal. So forgive me if I take offense at your comment.
Re:Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant... by spookthesunset on Friday November 26, 2021 @04:50PM (#29354516)
That doesn't mean any of these NPI's work, are ethical, or are worth their immense cost to society. It is entirely possible to "take this serious" but feel that society is causing itself far more harm with all these measures than it would have by doing absolutely nothing at all. None of these thing were in any playbook prior to march of 2020. And here we are almost a month from 2022 still working from this unwritten, untested playbook and still we have no clue if any of it works.

About the only thing we know works is vaccines and all these cool treatments we've figured out.

Re:Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant... by proactivesvcs on Friday November 26, 2021 @08:39PM (#29356337)
Masks are cheap and simple with no drawbacks. Ventilation is easy in many cases. Keeping one's distance costs nothing (which is not the be-all of social distancing, I agree). Vaccines are free.

These are all ethical, very effective and cost the individual almost nothing.

Enforcing social distancing is complex and incurs costs. For outdoor venues it seems to be less effective. What other methods are causing far more harm than good, far more harm than doing nothing?

Re:Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant... by LogonType10 on Friday November 26, 2021 @09:55PM (#29356875)
> Keeping one's distance costs nothing (which is not the be-all of social distancing, I agree).

Actually this costs trillions of dollars.[0]

[0] https://www.bea.gov/news/2020/gross-domestic-product-2nd-qua...

Re:Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant... by chipotle_coyote on Friday November 26, 2021 @07:32PM (#29355880)
> None of these thing were in any playbook prior to march of 2020.

Which things do you think are wild new tactics for trying to contain a pandemic? Social distancing? Lockdowns? Wearing masks in public? Because if you think any of those are untested wacky "nobody's ever tried anything like this before!" approaches, you need to spend a few more minutes with your favorite search engine.

Re:Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant... by SpicyLemonZest on Friday November 26, 2021 @11:25PM (#29357394)
You've been severely misinformed. You can read for example the UK's pre-pandemic playbook at (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...) - note they specifically call out universal masking, border closures, and restrictions on public gatherings as bad policies they don't plan to implement because there's no good evidence they help. Maybe they were wrong (I definitely think they were wrong on masks!), or maybe the difference between true influenza and a coronavirus with similar symptoms matters, but it's just not accurate to present these kinds of policies as the pre-pandemic consensus.
Re:Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant... by plutonorm on Friday November 26, 2021 @05:32PM (#29354928)
then you should also have problem with capitalism/plutocracy.
Re:Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant... by umanwizard on Friday November 26, 2021 @06:35PM (#29355428)
I think nearly everyone except ardent libertarian ideologues has at least some criticisms of capitalism, yes. But how is that related to the present discussion?