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Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by adriand on Sunday November 21, 2021 @08:32PM (#29301719)
By this logic, humans should be given only half the consideration we give to orcas, which according to the resource you posted, have twice the neurons we do.
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Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by BeeBoBub on Sunday November 21, 2021 @08:45PM (#29301811)
That’s not really the argument monkeybutton is making, the point is lobsters’ neural complexity is similar to ants, and orcas are comparable to humans.
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Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by otabdeveloper4 on Monday November 22, 2021 @01:44AM (#29303552)
Ants are intelligent enough to form civilization. (I think the only other species than humans.)

Granted, ant intelligence is a hive mind.

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Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by lanevorockz on Sunday November 21, 2021 @11:17PM (#29302662)
It’s still a gradation, “as complex” is obviously a stretch. The whole argument is silly, soon turning off my Deep Learning algorithms because they are more complex than lobster.
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Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by jojobas on Sunday November 21, 2021 @11:31PM (#29302753)
500 years ago the argument that black people should have rights was just as silly.

We'll live to see some sort of AI rights protection laws.

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Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by Chris2048 on Monday November 22, 2021 @07:10AM (#29305514)
No it wasn't, the argument was as silly as it is now, for a non-subjective definition of "silly".

500 years ago science was less mature, and unable to determine what was objectively silly, and what wasn't.

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Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by lanevorockz on Sunday November 21, 2021 @11:19PM (#29302678)
It also means that deep learning algorithms will soon deserve more rights than humans.
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Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by createunderrate on Monday November 22, 2021 @10:04AM (#29307006)
The ratio of neuron count to body size is the important measurement. An orca might have twice the neurons, but those extra neurons go toward motor control, not experiencing suffering and contemplating mortality.
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Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by yostrovs on Sunday November 21, 2021 @08:43PM (#29301789)
Once sentient, extra neurons don't change the status of a sentient being.
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