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Re:The Burnout Society by sirodoht on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @06:24AM (#29251569)
Hey opx9,

I do apologise if my use of the word "we" caused anger. At the same time I'm happy you took the time to respond—it seems you're passionate about this point so I want to know more.

Why do you say it's a small group? It seems to me it's a pretty large group across the West.

Then, you claim it's biological traits. Does that mean everybody has them?

Finally, what's the alternative? How could one get unstuck? Or maybe a better question would be: what are the traits of those that are not part of the group that has these traits?

Re:The Burnout Society by jseban on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @08:17AM (#29252583)
The way I see it, is that it's good to have diversity and not push too hard on a norm that doesn't suit everyone, and it's not a solution to attack the norm and swing the pendulum in the other direction, because that will probably do equally much damage, just to a different group of people. Striving for achievement is not bad, but striving for conformity and validation from peer pressure and norms, is bad.
Re:The Burnout Society by temp8964 on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @08:44AM (#29252845)
> Then, you claim it's biological traits. Does that mean everybody has them?

I don't understand your logic. If I say someone has the biological trait being very tall, apparently it means NOT everybody has it.

Re:The Burnout Society by stronglikedan on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @09:02AM (#29253040)
I don't understand your logic. OP was asking a question, which you answered. Questions are merely requests for logical explanations, and therefore, not always logical themselves.
Re:The Burnout Society by sirodoht on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @10:13AM (#29254095)
Ah interesting point. I meant it more like: height is a trait, some are tall, others short.

I see what you mean though. I guess that might also be how opx9 meant it.