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Re:.plan by jll29 on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @10:44PM (#29249082)
Any new ideas for missing protocols, HN?

More than finger, I so miss the times of USENET and the user experience of its hierarchical system of groups with threaded, text-only pull messages (I accessed it from gnus (the emacs newsreader) via my HP 9000 715 running HP-UX 9.03).

Re:.plan by clarkmoody on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @10:50PM (#29249123)
The Gemini protocol is an interesting re-imagining of Gopher: extremely simple text-only content, with client-side styling. Identification via client-side certs.
Re:.plan by azinman2 on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @12:47AM (#29249628)
I’m sure you could write a Reddit client that emulates this. For better or worse, it’s the most like Usenet today.
Re:.plan by layer8 on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @02:01AM (#29249963)
The most important difference a Usenet-like clients brings is per-message read/unread status, which is what enables long-running threads and discussions. Without most clients (most users) supporting such read/unread tracking, you won’t have long-running discussions, which changes the whole character of the medium.

Per-message read/unread status in practice requires keyboard navigation (or as an inferior alternative, paging with read/unread tracking like in web forums), which doesn’t work for mobile.

The lack of read/unread tracking is also why we don’t have long-running discussions on HN.

The only remaining medium with per-message read/unread tracking we currently have is mailing lists.

Re:.plan by spc476 on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @02:59AM (#29250226)
Not to mention kill files, allowing you to filter out people/topics/threads you don't wish to read.
Re:.plan by gerikson on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @05:31AM (#29251207)
Reddit Enhancement Suite is a sort of swiss army knife killfile. Sadly I don't think it is long for this world of New Reddit.
Re:.plan by 0des on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @08:49AM (#29252903)
That's not true. Everyone had a voice on Usenet. The same cannot be said for Reddit unfortunately.
Re:.plan by mongol on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @01:41AM (#29249851)
Some kind of social media protocol, that broadcast your posts to those that are granted to receive it. Perhaps it is not possible.
Re:.plan by dolmen on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @09:42AM (#29253627)
Re:.plan by kevin_thibedeau on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @05:35AM (#29251247)
Usenet isn't threaded. That's just something constructed client side.
Re:.plan by haakon on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @06:30AM (#29251621)
That makes little sense to me. Each post contains a pointer to its parent post in the thread. That's how the client side can construct the thread.