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Re:Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure by joecool1029 on Saturday November 13, 2021 @12:22AM (#29207620)
I seem to recall there being service levels at banks in Canada and maximum numbers of transactions per month until one gets hit with per-transaction fees. I was told explicitly when I opened my TD Canada Trust account there that it was imperative that I both keep money in the accounts and use them occasionally or dormancy fees would accrue (and if there was no money left, they'd then slam it with overdraft fees).

The benefit of US banking despite lax regulation was that there's a ton of different banks and credit unions to choose from. Some are great and some are shit. Literally hundreds to pick from. Canada there was like 5 big banks, a large credit union, and then depending on your area there was maybe perhaps a small community credit union.

Re:Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure by cameronh90 on Saturday November 13, 2021 @08:04AM (#29209459)
UK banks are pretty heavily regulated. For example, the overdraft fee spiral has been banned and in many cases banks were required to pay compensation.

Yet we have quite a lot of banks to pick from - around 60 if you include building societies (more if you include private, niche and specialist banks). We also have a fair few new and digital challenger banks like Monzo, Starling, Atom, Revolut and arguably Metro Bank. If anything our banking system seems far more innovative than the US system.

I don't know about Canada, but clearly regulations don't mean that you can't have competition and innovation.

Re:Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure by philjohn on Saturday November 13, 2021 @12:32PM (#29211522)
There are a lot of things that are just plain better in the UK compared to the US. Out of network ATM fees being a big one.

See also regulation about what the incumbent last-mile network provider (Openreach) can charge ISP's to provide services on their lines which has led to a larger number of ISP's available in any one place (unless you're in Hull, because of historical reasons).

Re:Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure by leetcrew on Saturday November 13, 2021 @12:57PM (#29211731)
if ATM fees are important to you, you could always consider opening an account with schwab. they reimburse 100% of ATM fees.

as for ISPs, it's hard to do worse than comcast, but at least they don't block a wide range of content by default.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_blocking_in_the_United_Kin...

Re:Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure by philjohn on Sunday November 14, 2021 @05:12AM (#29216367)
It was either "voluntarily block, or we'll force you to".

And the piracy site blocks are due to high court orders - not a lot an ISP can do in those cases.

Re:Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure by JoBrad on Saturday November 13, 2021 @10:25AM (#29210378)
I could be mistaken about this, but I thought it had something to do with the UK’s relationship with the EU (and perhaps the US, as well?) that made the UK particularly attractive to financial industry.
Re:Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure by dsomers on Saturday November 13, 2021 @01:41AM (#29207935)
Totally agree, the Canadian banking system is a corrupt cartel the levies it’s own tax on every Canadian. This was made even more clear to me when I moved to the Netherlands and every banking fee was suddenly 1/3 as much as in Canada for the exact same service.
Re:Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure by doikor on Saturday November 13, 2021 @03:14AM (#29208287)
Here in Finland banking fees are a thing only for the poor (and even then we are talking about a total of 20 or 30 euros per year)

Basically every bank has some kind of "premium customer" program that you qualify for by having enough investments or loans from that bank and magically all your banking fees go away (obviously they just make their money from the services they provide for your investments/loans)

Re:Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure by kwhitefoot on Saturday November 13, 2021 @05:01AM (#29208724)
Banking fees? Never paid any as far as I can tell, not for the ordinary things. My bank here in Norway won't pay a bill if there isn't enough money in the account. It sends me a text and an email to say what happened and doesn't charge me anything.

The only fees I pay are a small percentage for management of mutual funds.

Re:Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure by adpcm on Saturday November 13, 2021 @10:15AM (#29210290)
I’m assuming parent meant fees like X per month for having a debit/credit card or for access to “online” banking.
Re:Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure by kwhitefoot on Monday November 15, 2021 @08:40AM (#29227215)
You are right I pay an annual fee for my credit card and debit card. No fees for using them or access to online banking. The bank is online only anyway.
Re:Debit cards are hidden financial infrastructure by doikor on Saturday November 13, 2021 @10:21AM (#29210334)
Yeah that is what I meant. Basically having online banking + debit/credit card. Also for under 2X years old (depends on the bank) they are usually free.