Boeing admits full responsibility for 737 Max plane crash in Ethiopia

Re:Boeing admits full responsibility for 737 Max plane crash... by Zanfa on Friday November 12, 2021 @05:00AM (#29197783)

To be fair, I wouldn't fly Ryanair even if they paid me. They have the absolute worst experience of any airline I've flown with. There's no reason to fly Ryanair unless you enjoy being treated like cattle, love filthy planes, like the thrill of the stampede to get a seat and the hordes of drunk people. There's something about Ryanair that brings out the worst in people.

It's only fitting they're gonna be buying these planes.

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Re:Boeing admits full responsibility for 737 Max plane crash... by musiciangames on Friday November 12, 2021 @05:14AM (#29197837)

To be fair to Ryanair, their experience has improved. No more stampede - 'a seat will be allocated to you (free of charge)'. Less strident attempts to sell you scratch tickets. Staff seem to have been told it's acceptable to smile at customers. I have never been a fan, but my last few trips with them have been fine. I'd say there's a lot of people who like you flew with them during their worst days, and will never give them another go. You only get one chance to make a first impression.

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Re:Boeing admits full responsibility for 737 Max plane crash... by dagw on Friday November 12, 2021 @05:10AM (#29197826)

There's no reason to fly Ryanair

I agree with everything you say, however as someone who lives in a smaller secondary city, Ryanair is often the only airline offering direct flights to many destinations. So unfortunately in many cases the choice is a €50 90 minute direct flight with Ryanair or a €250 3-5 hour trip with 1 or 2 changes.

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Re:Boeing admits full responsibility for 737 Max plane crash... by thesimon on Friday November 12, 2021 @05:12AM (#29197833)

I actually don't mind it too much. Their ops are usually good and direct flights are convienient.

I also like their honesty. You get what you pay for.

Lufthansa on the other hand removed everything (free checked luggage, free drinks, free food) and said that passengers would be much happier to personalise their flight experience by buying everything separately.

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Re:Boeing admits full responsibility for 737 Max plane crash... by oblio on Friday November 12, 2021 @05:04AM (#29197797)

> There's no reason to fly Ryanair

They're cheap and they go to some destinations where there are no other flights.

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Re:Boeing admits full responsibility for 737 Max plane crash... by philjohn on Friday November 12, 2021 @05:09AM (#29197819)

To be fair, when you fly to tiny regional airports 100 miles away from the city you're supposedly flying to, it's not hard to advertise destinations that larger airlines don't serve ... (only slightly joking).

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Re:Boeing admits full responsibility for 737 Max plane crash... by toyg on Friday November 12, 2021 @05:43AM (#29197978)

They are not cheap at peak times, particularly if you dare bringing luggage with you, but they are definitely among the best if you want to reach smaller airports.

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Re:Boeing admits full responsibility for 737 Max plane crash... by gattilorenz on Friday November 12, 2021 @05:12AM (#29197835)

> There's no reason to fly Ryanair

Plenty of people disagree with you and I'm one of them. If the upside is paying 10 euros for covering 1500 km I can handle the cattle-like experience for 2 hours.

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Re:Boeing admits full responsibility for 737 Max plane crash... by dewey on Friday November 12, 2021 @05:07AM (#29197810)

Nobody is flying with Ryanair because they enjoy it so much, sometimes they are the only choice or way for some people to afford the trip.

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Re:Boeing admits full responsibility for 737 Max plane crash... by Symbiote on Friday November 12, 2021 @05:07AM (#29197809)

They're still preferable to taking two flights.

My work used to take me to smaller cities in Eastern Europe. Ryanair was often the only direct flight.

I don't think the planes are dirty. The lack of seat pocket and the plasticy seats must make it easier to clean.

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Re:Boeing admits full responsibility for 737 Max plane crash... by Zanfa on Friday November 12, 2021 @05:38AM (#29197957)

That's not a coincidence though. They're responsible for closures of a good number of competing flights from destinations that are not big enough to sustain multiple large carriers at different price/quality levels. Thus everybody gets stuck with Ryanair-level service, even if you'd be willing to pay more for more humane treatment.

Luckily, a number of regional players have started to adopt to this in recent years by replacing fleets with smaller planes to offer more flexibility.

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Re:Boeing admits full responsibility for 737 Max plane crash... by atlasunshrugged on Friday November 12, 2021 @05:17AM (#29197852)

Is that why they don't have the seat pocket? I always wondered about that. I'm the type of person who travels with a bottle of water and a kindle and not having mesh is one of the most annoying parts of flying with them

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Re:Boeing admits full responsibility for 737 Max plane crash... by missedthecue on Friday November 12, 2021 @09:17AM (#29199436)

"There's no reason to fly Ryanair unless you enjoy being treated like cattle, love filthy planes, like the thrill of the stampede to get a seat and the hordes of drunk people."

I mean there is also the whole 'order of magnitude cheaper than some competitors' thing they have going on. For a lot of people, it's worth being in a filthy plane treated like cattle for only an hour if it means they get to save £200.

There is certainly a reason why Ryanair carries more passengers every year than any other airline on earth.

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