Harvard Extension started in the 1830s and became a formal division of the university over 100 years ago. They offer real degrees to "non-traditional" students. People that get admitted get the same student ID card that everyone else gets, has the same facility access, etc.
The biggest transgression is that Harvard gives those graduates a liberal arts degree in "extension studies" without naming the concentration.
People also seem to have issues with the fact that anyone that applies and meets the requirements is admitted as a student. But if you count the number of people that start with one of the "courses for entry" and compare to the number of people who actually get admitted, their admission rate would be even lower than, say, the Harvard Kennedy School (which by the way is willing to grant a master's degree to someone that doesn't even have an undergraduate degree).
Why it gets such flack for being "Harvard, but not really" doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Harvard College - the undergraduate school - is the super exclusive part. Harvard University - the collection of graduate schools plus the college - is huge with a wide variety of exclusivity and completely uncorrelated ability.
It's a rigorous degree, they only admit a limited number of students (so your application has to be reasonable), and it's completely affordable. It's also indistinguishable from their on-campus MS in CS. It doesn't say you took it "online" after you graduate. Georgia Tech is a pretty outstanding school, so this looks good for places that care.
If you want an MS in CS and want to do it from home, this is the one you want.
[1] Anecdotal, but I know five colleagues that have taken it and have nothing but praise for the program. The two I am closest to used for the following cases:
1. A CS grad working in the field used it to explore machine learning a decade after college. They had no previous experience with the field and then shifted into a deep learning role shortly before graduation.
2. Another close friend was a graduate working in radio research and wanted to learn CS fundamentals (OS, distributed, etc.). They're still doing radio work, but they used it to get an expanded role and a pretty substantial raise.
Both were very happy with the program. Both completed the program while working full time, though they admitted it was a ton of work.
I've learned an incredible amount of incredible things. While it's difficult to manage both the program and other life obligations, I'll be a bit sad once it's over.
The Open University (UK) has offered decently-regarded remote degree programs since 1969.
In the 1970s they used to show lectures on national broadcast TV in the otherwise-unused hours of the day. Was cool.
Some of the classes have a metric ton of homework and projects, and the deadlines can be pretty rough. I know my coworker was sweating after work a few times (this was pre-pandemic) and told me they'd be spending a few evenings implementing project work.
I can't say enough good things about OMSCS. I'm finishing my 7th class and got an SWE role during my 5th. It's the real deal.
[disclaimer: from ATL, dad went to Tech, &c.]
This isn't exactly true. Only a fraction of all classes are available for the online program. The computational perception & robotics specialization for instance has a very limited selection of classes available. Plus, you don't get the benefit of in-person networking with your peers and professors, but that's just the price of being remote.
They also offer an accelerated course if you already have an undergrad degree (e.g. for those looking for a career change). [1]
[1] https://ecampus.oregonstate.edu/online-degrees/undergraduate... [0] https://ecampus.oregonstate.edu/online-degrees/undergraduate...
Full disclosure: I work at Coursera.
The total cost of the programme for 2021/22 is between £11,229 - £16,790 *, depending upon geographic location.
While the Extension School does offer certificate programs, it's the Harvard Business School that has really benefited IMHO. They are really pushing hard to grow them (https://online.hbs.edu/blog/post/hbs-online-certificate-of-s...).
You are correct about the growth of online degrees. HES degree programs received a massive boost when online classes were offered and "professional" concentrations (business, technology) were made available at the graduate level starting about 15 years ago. The number of new degrees awarded every year has tripled as a result.
Note that the University does not allow the Extension School to award MS or MBA degrees, and there is a lot of controversy over the convoluted and demeaning designation that's used on our degrees (https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2021/3/9/extension-school...).
The other area in which the Harvard Extension School is well-known is its post-bacc. It's highly regarded, and people who complete the program have been admitted to top-tier medical schools across the U.S. (https://extension.harvard.edu/academics/programs/premedical-...).
I completed a history degree. For my thesis I carried out a computer content analysis of Xinhua (新華社), China’s official news agency, to gauge Beijing’s foreign policy priorities in Southeast Asia during the Deng Xiaoping era. My faculty advisor said that I could get a job as an analyst if I were willing to move to Washington (I was not interested in doing this).
I graduated with a Psychology degree. I worked at a lot of BS jobs after college from recruiting and customer service which lead me to pursue sales for more money. Did sales for about seven years for various industries, left sales about two years ago, and now I work in totally different field that funny enough isn't customer facing. Being under 40, I'm proud to say that I am very close to what I feel is financial freedom.
Anecdotally, one of my friend circles consists of some engineers, doctors, lawyers, CEOs - you get it, the book smart people. Very well educated, went to prestigious universities, earned their highly respected degrees, etc. Most of them today are solidly traffic jammed in the rat race like the majority of society.
I have another friend circle, not nearly as educated as the friends highlighted above, who some are sitting on multi-million stock portfolios/assets/whatever. One of them who really stands out paid one of our other friend to write all his papers in college. Think he barely squeezed out a C average.
It really depends on the person. I work for an Elon Musk company if anyone cares.
I retook Calc I through the extension school six or seven years ago out of curiosity when I was considering doing an online Master's. Rigor was on par with my undergrad Calc I or perhaps a little higher and the quality of instruction was definitely higher. The lecturer (Eric Towne!) had a command of the people and history surrounding the concepts he was teaching and shared lots of fascinating context.
Thesis masters are increasingly rare these days as American schools allow you to jump straight to a PhD program (Europe is a bit more rigid here). The other kind of Masters degree that is increasingly popular is the 5th year undergrad extension, which makes a lot of a sense (MIT started the trend here, other schools have followed).
My master in a no-name French tech school was mostly a software development curriculum, with some DL and scikit-learn courses tacked on. That was for the paper, the actual skills came on the job and online.
Anyone with a French engineering diploma I would consider for a data science position.
In my own personal experience, I was already done with the graduate class requirement after my 4th year, so I only had to concentrate on doing the thesis during the 5th year (though I also enrolled in a couple electives of my own choosing). For me, that year was relatively more chill than my previous years.
[1] https://www.eecs.mit.edu/academics/undergraduate-programs/me...
To me it adds negative value. And I'm not the only one [0]. Especially when the undergrad was from a weak school or something unrelated to CS.
[0] https://blog.alinelerner.com/how-different-is-a-b-s-in-compu...
I'm not sure in the long run the institution wins. As you do more and more of these courses your marketing gets more and more obvious. Social media feeds, that sort of thing. You don't want to be that school that sells diplomas.
This becomes awkward when interviewing if there's a real Harvard grad in the room. Invariably the first question they'll ask is which house the candidate was in.
Are people actually asking this at the beginning of interviews? I'm a Harvard College grad, and that's a question I sometimes ask or am asked in social settings, but not in interview settings. When I've worked with interns or recent grads from the college it usually comes up eventually, but usually only after the internship/job has started and folks are starting to get each other.
E.g. On LinkedIn I frequently see Harvard listed on profiles, but upon digging in, it is Harvard Extension School which mostly seems to offer certificates. The recipients win (they get to put Harvard on their resume, albeit paying high fees for online only, ignoring costs/default rates) and the college wins (they get paid, the marginal cost per student is probably favorable, degree vs certificates probably doesn't matter if the same content and tests apply). The only people potentially negatively impacted will be the students of the traditional organization in that they paid full tuition for a college brand that is actively diluting itself by selling certificates that may have lower standards that traditionally associated with the organization.