Re:Hypnogram: Create an image from text
by asxd on Monday November 08, 2021 @03:38AM
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I highly recommend checking out diffusion networks for image generation. It's hard to put in words the difference between diffusion and something like VQGAN, but the images have a much more organic quality. Here's a mish-mash of images [1] I generated recently. A few (like the bears) used initial images to get the process started, but most are from just a text prompt (the large image of the dog at the bottom right was the result of using another network to upscale one of the outputs).
The results need to be cherry picked, but I'm frequently surprised by the good images. For instance, after some attempts I got this nightmarish result for "my neighbor totoro" [2].
edit: It can also be very satisfying to see the process unfold throughout the iterations, starting from noise and eventually settling on a very convincing imaging [3].
Re:Hypnogram: Create an image from text
by Gigachad on Sunday November 07, 2021 @11:40PM
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Nothing. Past cases have settled that the copyright goes to the person who used their creative process to sort through the computer generated images and pick the quality out.
So by typing misty mountain and selecting it as good, you are most likely the copyright owner of that image.
Re:Hypnogram: Create an image from text
by Gigachad on Monday November 08, 2021 @04:32PM
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I did some more searching and it looks like its actually a little up in the air right now but that proposals are looking at making it work this way. So the AI would be considered something like photoshop where if you use the tool to create something, you are the copyright owner.
Re:Hypnogram: Create an image from text
by im3w1l on Monday November 08, 2021 @09:18AM
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That the result may be considered a derivative work of something in the training set.
And to give my hot take: My current thinking is that the law should take a strict stance here, as the produced images will compete with, and may substitute for the original ones.
Re:Hypnogram: Create an image from text
by Gigachad on Monday November 08, 2021 @04:34PM
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What are the original ones? There is likely no previous image that looks anything like this generation. When you draw a picture, you aren't required to credit every piece of art you have seen in the past which inspired your style.
Re:Hypnogram: Create an image from text
by captainmuon on Monday November 08, 2021 @04:20AM
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I don't want to be overly pessimistic, but I have a strange feeling about AI image or text generators. Who can prove that it actually does what it says?
I have a conspiracy theory: Somebody found a way to quickly generate pictures in this style in a semi-manual fashion, and hired a bunch of people to fake this, mechanical turk style. I have never found an interactive generator that completely convinced me, neither for images nor for text. Either the results are really bad, or the responses take so long that a person could have made it.
But why would somebody fake something like this? There is a lot of money in AI. It seems totally plausible that someone invests five or six figures to set up a fake demonstration, in order to raise millions in investments.
Now I want to make clear while I get a big Theranos vibe from these kind of demos, I don't want to accuse anybody concretely. I think a lot is technically possible and I do believe a lot of research is real, but I also believe some demos are "fake it till you make it" territory.
Re:Hypnogram: Create an image from text
by micaeked on Monday November 08, 2021 @05:08AM
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I might be getting whooshed here, but if you're serious, there's a couple colab notebooks floating around, you can look at the code that generates it or run it on your own hardware. Here's one: https://is.gd/artmachine
Re:Hypnogram: Create an image from text
by captainmuon on Monday November 08, 2021 @06:12AM
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Thanks! I'm only half joking. I used traditional machine learning in my PhD but never got into modern deep learning techniques. I tried a couple of collab notebooks and tutorials but never succeded with anything more complex than NIST numbers. I think over the holidays I'll give it another shot because I find this stuff really interesting (art generation, style transfer, but also transfer learning in general).
The conspiracy theory is more a jab at the fact that we live in a world with Theranos, NFTs, and clones of Dogecoin. There actually have been a couple of high profile AI fraud schemes, like Augustus Intelligence, where people collected investments and government money and probably never had a product.
Re:Hypnogram: Create an image from text
by alecst on Monday November 08, 2021 @05:40AM
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You can download the code and run it on your computer, without internet. Or maybe you can’t, and I’m just part of the conspiracy. Only one way to find out!
Re:Hypnogram: Create an image from text
by byhemechi on Monday November 08, 2021 @02:59AM
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it's genuinely interesting to see the weird mix of random nouns, nerd things (not surprising considering what site i'm posting this on) and people trying very hard to get AI porn.
Re:Hypnogram: Create an image from text
by dotancohen on Monday November 08, 2021 @02:40AM
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The would be great to illustrate a markov-chain generated blog.
I put "Starship landing on the moon" and "Starship landing on Mars". Let's just say that the results generated were far better than I would have produced given pretty much any medium to create in.
Re:Hypnogram: Create an image from text
by kreeben on Sunday November 07, 2021 @04:40PM
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I did "creature that is half man half bear half pig" but out came a regular bearpig. I wonder if it first created a manbear, then replaced the man parts with piggie ones.
Re:Hypnogram: Create an image from text
by kreeben on Sunday November 07, 2021 @04:54PM
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That's wild. First a chimp had sex with a pig. Then the same chimp had sex with the offspring. Then again with it's grandchildren. What a dirty chimp. But still, I'm glad they did it.
The results need to be cherry picked, but I'm frequently surprised by the good images. For instance, after some attempts I got this nightmarish result for "my neighbor totoro" [2].
edit: It can also be very satisfying to see the process unfold throughout the iterations, starting from noise and eventually settling on a very convincing imaging [3].
https://ibb.co/6mNTMjH [1] N.B: Probably SFW, but some images are oddly disturbing
https://ibb.co/7KCvXPG [2]
https://imgur.com/a/HEBM0uq [3]
https://i.postimg.cc/ryDWKPXT/image.png
I wonder, what stops someone just using one of the images generated here as their own "art"?
So by typing misty mountain and selecting it as good, you are most likely the copyright owner of that image.
And to give my hot take: My current thinking is that the law should take a strict stance here, as the produced images will compete with, and may substitute for the original ones.
https://i.ibb.co/BVSFHpN/image.png
My own query, "clown factory" was a bit less obvious:
https://i.ibb.co/TYDmRT1/image.png
https://imgur.com/a/OKW411E
I have a conspiracy theory: Somebody found a way to quickly generate pictures in this style in a semi-manual fashion, and hired a bunch of people to fake this, mechanical turk style. I have never found an interactive generator that completely convinced me, neither for images nor for text. Either the results are really bad, or the responses take so long that a person could have made it.
But why would somebody fake something like this? There is a lot of money in AI. It seems totally plausible that someone invests five or six figures to set up a fake demonstration, in order to raise millions in investments.
Now I want to make clear while I get a big Theranos vibe from these kind of demos, I don't want to accuse anybody concretely. I think a lot is technically possible and I do believe a lot of research is real, but I also believe some demos are "fake it till you make it" territory.
The conspiracy theory is more a jab at the fact that we live in a world with Theranos, NFTs, and clones of Dogecoin. There actually have been a couple of high profile AI fraud schemes, like Augustus Intelligence, where people collected investments and government money and probably never had a product.
I put "all star by smash mouth in the style of the last supper" and was not disappointed (https://i.imgur.com/3flZ0CN.jpg)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29004677
https://ibb.co/rvtFDR9
I put "Starship landing on the moon" and "Starship landing on Mars". Let's just say that the results generated were far better than I would have produced given pretty much any medium to create in.
I did get to see something about "Jew money" scroll by along the bottom while I was waiting, so, thanks internet.
That said, this is impressive and extremely addictive!
For those interested, I'm posting some of my favorite results on IG (@gantagonist)
https://ibb.co/Wyhcq3T
Anyways, very neat, this.
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