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I know this isn’t an argument but when I read this my first thought was: How can a real person hold this opinion?
Re:"I'm on a War Footing": Terry Tao and the Crisis in Math on Monday October 19, 2026 @09:32AM (#50152269)
Solving Navier-Stokes and quasi-RH is “average” now?
You’re looking at where the ball is right now and not where it’s going.
And if we do solve it we’re pretty fucked, huh.

Maybe it’s a reason to start slowing down?

Even within my own lifetime it seems like people have less free time than ever, so I’m skeptical.
I’m seeing this perspective expressed a lot lately, but (so far) only online.

Understand that there’s more than one way to prove something, that there’s an art to making something understandable, and that humans tend to take the most understandable paths (to humans.)

Models often don’t do that. But in solving, or claiming to solve, important problems, they nevertheless remove a lot of the excitement and incentive towards working towards a solution humans would naturally find. Plus, a lot of these problems really don’t have any critical applications at the moment. They’re done for the love of the game.

Does that bother you? That your tax dollars pay people who do math out of curiosity?

Re:Super Intelligence on Saturday October 17, 2026 @08:53AM (#50130689)
Relieved to know the Assistant to the President for the Office of the First Lady is a key part of the SI Task Force.
Re:We Still Use Paper on Saturday October 17, 2026 @08:45AM (#50130634)
Being a doomer sucks, man. But I see a lot of issues with your way of thinking, which I was basically getting at in the post you replied to. Let me explain:

Today it's a useful tool. But in not too long--a few years, perhaps--this tool will be able to outsmart you. If you think this is definitely not going to happen, then okay--we see the progress in LLMs differently. I see machines which, in a matter of three years, went from being able to do basic proofs, to math Olympiad problems, to century-old Millennium problems. I see no reason why progress will slow down.

Any "tool" which is that much smarter than you is no tool, any more than you are the "tool" of your pet dog.

I understand wanting to feel better and be optimistic about the future. I'm unfortunately not, and that makes a lot of people feel bad. Again, I'm sorry! I don't want to be a downer. But it's important to me that people take these risks seriously and don't minimize them with expressions like "we still have paper" and "it's a useful tool."

Re:We Still Use Paper on Saturday October 17, 2026 @07:29AM (#50130122)
Most feel-good pieces on AI make the same mistake, which is looking at where the ball is and not where it's going. If progress were to halt today, this article would be relevant and I'd upvote it.

But since the richest and least trustworthy people on earth are on track to make an ultraintelligent thinking machine, the risks I'm worried about are: killing most jobs, concentrating most wealth, and putting ourselves at risk of literal extinction. All I could think when reading this was, "this person really did not think this all the way through." I'm sorry.

Unhinged and honestly nauseating take. Were you hurt by a mathematician at some point? I don't even know where to begin with how negative and backwards this is. I guess I could start by saying that if you replace "mathematicians" in your comment with literally any other profession you could make the same criticism about greed and clout. With the "writing their names in blood" comment, I have no words. I will weep for the world if it turns out that this is how people see math.
Re:Gemini 4 Argon on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @01:29PM (#50075437)
You can see the difference between GPT 3, 4, 5, 6 each year. Same with Gemini and Claude. Look at image and text generation. Code generation. Math ability (Navier Stokes, Quasi-Riemann.)
Re:Gemini 4 Argon on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @12:20PM (#50074207)
We're not living in the same universe. Look at capability year-over-year. The asymptotic maximum is wishful thinking. Someone needs to step in before this gets wildly out of control.
Re:'AI' Is Not a Tool by Rich Hickey on Monday October 12, 2026 @06:34PM (#50064030)
> The assumption I need to challenge is that "an ultraintelligent machine could design even better machines".

Would you bet your life, and everyone else's, to test that assumption?

Not to mention: you can scale up performance in simple ways: more data, more compute, and more weights. Those are the obvious ones, ignoring architectural changes.

Re:AI is a tool and using it well takes skill on Monday October 12, 2026 @06:07PM (#50063742)
I don't understand the point of this debate. Rich's point is good. Having a mini-army of highly intelligent beings at your fingertips is not an ordinary "tool."

And it minimizes the fact that these things are only getting smarter. Having an entity much smarter than you--could that entity seriously be considered your "tool"? Just your tool? Or are the people on the "just a tool" side of this debate not taking that possibility seriously?

Re:'AI' Is Not a Tool by Rich Hickey on Monday October 12, 2026 @04:14PM (#50062348)

     In the 1960s there was recognition of some of the implications of
     human intelligence. I. J. Good wrote [10]:
     
     Let an ultraintelligent machine be defined as a machine
     that can far surpass all the intellectual activities of any
     any man however clever.  Since the design of machines is one of
     these intellectual activities, an ultraintelligent machine could
     design even better machines; there would then unquestionably
     be an "intelligence explosion," and the intelligence of man
     would be left far behind.  Thus the first ultraintelligent
     machine is the _last_ invention that man need ever make, 
     provided that the machine is docile enough to tell us how to
     keep it under control.
     ...
     It is more probable than not that, within the twentieth century,
     an ultraintelligent machine will be built and that it will be
     the last invention that man need make.
     
     Good has captured the essence of the runaway, but does not pursue
     its most disturbing consequences. Any intelligent machine of the sort
     he describes would not be humankind's "tool" -- any more than humans
     are the tools of rabbits or robins or chimpanzees. 
-Vernor Vigne

https://edoras.sdsu.edu/~vinge/misc/singularity.html

Re:Thinking will become a hobby on Monday October 12, 2026 @04:12PM (#50062315)
"It can happen or it won't--so the odds are 50/50!"
Re:Terence Tao: Math 2.0 [pdf] on Monday October 12, 2026 @11:58AM (#50058298)
Look, I'll be the first among us to call out people who put way too much of their identity in their work. But I'm not talking about that.

Throughout history and throughout cultures there's a universal: children, adults, and the elderly all like to feel like they have some kind of purpose in their community. Getting food, physical healing, emotional support, construction, passing on wisdom. All of these things are under threat.

I think you gravely underestimate how important this is, and how bored and dismal life would be if you didn't have some kind of purpose in your community.

Alarming how casual you all are about regulating and pacing the most risky technology ever developed.
Re:Terence Tao: Math 2.0 [pdf] on Monday October 12, 2026 @08:42AM (#50055604)
You really don’t and this sentiment worries me. Since the beginning of human culture we’ve been a social species relying on each other’s strengths. Having a purpose is what life has been all about. This future isn’t as beautiful as you think it is.
Re:Terence Tao: Math 2.0 [pdf] on Sunday October 11, 2026 @09:09PM (#50050035)
Is there a reason to be so smug, bristly, and uncharitable to a stranger? I did not at all mean it that way. The conversation was about math, and his skills far exceed mine in that domain. I hate having to write in a way that closes off every possible negative interpretation of my words, lest someone pounce on me.
Re:Terence Tao: Math 2.0 [pdf] on Sunday October 11, 2026 @10:51AM (#50043920)
Putting aside the cancer question: I still don't understand how TT seems to be fixated on what models can do today instead of tomorrow. It's realistic and even conceivable that the models will also become better at explaining and presenting proofs too. Maybe he's not emotionally ready to accept that there may not be a future where his (and to some extent, my) skills are relevant and valued. It breaks my heart. I hope I'm wrong, but it feels like we've run out of higher ground to run to.
If my dog bites you, you can say it bit you, or that I let it bite you, but those things can both be true.
Re:No Man Is an Island on Friday October 09, 2026 @04:29PM (#50026194)
I used to get calls often from my friends to ask me questions about my area of expertise. Not urgent things, just friendly "hey--what if..." kinds of questions.

Without the question, they might have never called. But because they called, we usually ended up just talking about other things too. Life. Girls. Work.

I rarely get calls like that anymore. It breaks my heart.

For the last few years, me and my friend have been working on a toy problem together. It's a problem that the most recent wave of LLMs can almost certainly solve and probably even one-shot. We now realize that no one's going to read our paper if we ever decide to publish our work. But we still use our weekly meetings to talk about things and make little progress here and there, come up with new questions, etc. It's bittersweet.

Re:The last time my family was replaced by technology on Wednesday September 30, 2026 @09:50AM (#49908960)
Humans ourselves are a technology. We have incredibly flexible brains and dexterous hands. Up to now, we could always do things that robots couldn't. That was where our job security came from.

But what happens when a robot can do anything a human can? When a cheap machine can do anything you can do but faster and better, what makes you different from a horse in the 1920s?

This is what the article misses and what people have trouble accepting. Yea, this is a technological revolution, but unlike the Industrial Revolution, you can't just upskill your way out of it.

Re:Fool's Expertise on Monday September 28, 2026 @10:12AM (#49878287)
https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/...

I skimmed the RAND paper too and didn't come away from this feeling good at all.

There's a middle-ground for AI doomage which doesn't involve killing every last human on earth. As AI rapidly becomes more capable it displaces jobs faster than people can be retrained.

I fear a global economic depression, wider wealth inequality than ever before, a loss of benefits due to much lower tax revenues and greater imbalance of power, dismal job prospects returning to non-automated labor--the list goes on really.

And to connect this to the article: the experts who claimed that AI capability would slow down because of some "scaling laws" or whatever--they've been wrong. If anything, the progress is faster than most of us imagined and is only accelerating.

ChatGPT came out 4 years ago. Look at what's possible today. Now imagine 4 years from today.

Re:Sherline Tools Is Going Out of Business on Sunday September 20, 2026 @11:56AM (#49777092)
Crazy as it sounds, that’s the opposite of my personal experience.
Re:AI-generated posters don’t have to be horrible on Saturday September 19, 2026 @02:22PM (#49768930)
This reads like the opening scene of the Monkey’s Paw. Doubt it will feel like a good deal in the long run.
Re:Humanity has the debate about AI consciousness backwards on Thursday August 27, 2026 @01:27AM (#49460136)
I’m can’t track what the point of this essay is. Suppose we replaced “AI” with “animal.” How would this essay be different? What am I supposed to take away? My concern with AI consciousness is about to what extent these machines can have an experience comparable to mine, which this essay doesn’t touch on at all.
String theory, being a high-energy theory, predicts that at high energies things will look “stringy.” It’s not untestable in principle. But it is out of reach of current experiments. I think that distinction is important.
Re:Some combinatorial applications of spacefilling curves on Tuesday July 28, 2026 @07:48AM (#49082439)
Well, how would you walk along a curve like that?

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