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Re:Making Emacs Popular Again (2020) by eadmund on Thursday November 04, 2021 @10:46AM (#29107859)
Ah, but Javascript is a profoundly terrible language to do anything in, while Lisp is a joy to write in.

Being a Lisp machine is core to the value of Emacs. Emacs-without-Lisp is just another editor.

Re:Making Emacs Popular Again (2020) by Steltek on Thursday November 04, 2021 @11:56AM (#29108749)
eLisp? Where lexical scoping is this brand new feature that generates compiler warnings? Where the UI thread is the same as your eLisp thread? Where multiprocessing is a super clunky fork-exec with a weird side buffer? Where a simple regular expression works differently between what the user invokes and how you'd write it in a function?

Yeah, it's a super joy to write.

Re:Making Emacs Popular Again (2020) by r-zip on Thursday November 04, 2021 @01:44PM (#29110293)
As someone who uses Emacs and likes writing lisp, 100% agree. elisp is without a doubt the worst lisp still in common use.
Re:Making Emacs Popular Again (2020) by oblio on Thursday November 04, 2021 @12:14PM (#29108987)
It is a joy. When writing code in the ivory tower :-)
Re:Making Emacs Popular Again (2020) by foldr on Thursday November 04, 2021 @03:05PM (#29111230)
Elisp arguably has worse warts than Javascript. For example, non of Javascript's legacy 'var' scoping nonsense compares to elisp's archaic model of using dynamic scope for everything by default. On top of that, modern Javascript implementations are of extremely high quality, whereas Elisp is stuck with an interpreter of mediocre performance.
Re:Making Emacs Popular Again (2020) by spiderice on Thursday November 04, 2021 @11:12AM (#29108188)
> Javascript is a profoundly terrible language to do anything in

Makes it really hard to take anything you say seriously when you reveal just how ok with extreme hyperbole you are

Re:Making Emacs Popular Again (2020) by Zababa on Thursday November 04, 2021 @11:39AM (#29108534)
What do you find profoundly terrible about JavaScript?
Re:Making Emacs Popular Again (2020) by edgyquant on Thursday November 04, 2021 @01:13PM (#29109851)
I disagree, I like JavaScript