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Re:Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $15... by yeuxardents on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @05:37PM (#29100642)
Thats not exactly correct. You can own hollow points in NJ, but you may only transport them from place of purchase to your home, or from your home directly to the range where you intend to shoot them, or from range back to home.

It is most certainly illegal to use hollow points in any instance in a case of self defense, even if the self defense is warranted.

Re:Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $15... by post_break on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @05:40PM (#29100671)
If that's the case, it's still completely dumb. If you shoot someone in self defense with ball ammo it's definitely going to over penetrate and keep going possibly hitting anyone or anything behind the threat.

And what happens if you are driving from the range and experience a flat tire, have to use the restroom, an emergency where you need to go somewhere else. Bad laws.

Re:Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $15... by sjg007 on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @07:48PM (#29102038)
Hollow points are more destructive and dangerous to the person who was shot. They cause so much internal damage that the person will not survive a wound that may have been survivable otherwise. They are banned by the Geneva convention.
Re:Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $15... by betwixthewires on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @08:48PM (#29102456)
I'd like a source on that final sentence if you have it.

I get the arguments for and against them, but I generally favor leaving those decisions up to the people involved.

Re:Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $15... by sjg007 on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @08:50PM (#29102467)
Why don’t you Google it? Easy to find.
Re:Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $15... by portpecos on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @11:55PM (#29103547)
>It is a common misapprehension that hollow-point ammunition is prohibited by the Geneva Conventions, as the prohibition significantly predates those conventions.

There ya go. Easy to find.

Re:Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $15... by post_break on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @08:24PM (#29102301)
Why do police use them then?
Re:Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $15... by namelessoracle on Thursday November 04, 2021 @02:18PM (#29110694)
Because they are less likely to also shoot the person behind the person you shot.
Re:Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $15... by mikestew on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @06:08PM (#29101022)
It is most certainly illegal to use hollow points in any instance in a case of self defense

What the hell else am I supposed to do with hollow points but shoot someone? Target practice? That's a waste of good ammo and money. I lean left enough to feel that our gun laws are way too lax, but this particular law as described is just pointless posturing. It reminds me of "cop killer bullets". Umm, you mean rifle rounds, that can penetrate an armored vest? No, you mean a Teflon coating?[0] Well, turns out...

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teflon-coated_bullet

Re:Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $15... by busymom0 on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @05:43PM (#29100698)
> It is most certainly illegal to use hollow points in any instance in a case of self defense, even if the self defense is warranted.

That makes no sense and if that's the case, it's definitely unconstitutional.

Re:Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $15... by xanaxagoras on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @06:01PM (#29100913)
Also, who shoots hollow points at the range? They're super expensive.
Re:Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $15... by to11mtm on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @06:07PM (#29100998)
Random guess; Carve-out intended for off duty LEOs?