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Re:Remote-first work is taking over the rich world – researc... by jimbob45 on Thursday October 28, 2021 @10:51PM (#29034653)
What is a “near shore” company?
Re:Remote-first work is taking over the rich world – researc... by extr on Thursday October 28, 2021 @11:02PM (#29034724)
I'd be curious to know as well, but I'm guessing he means Europe. I used to work with other Data Scientists based in Europe and was always shocked to learn how little they got paid, usually less than 50% of american counterparts. And for work like DS where objectives are more abstract and harder to specify, Europeans have enough cultural and literal fluency to be able to fully replace someone from the US. This is in comparison to the situation as I understand it for India-based pure software development, where communication/cultural barriers requires tighter management to use the talent effectively (this is going off what I've heard, I have no personal experience here. so feel free to correct me if my understanding isn't accurate).

So previously being able to utilize offshore talent was basically a skill unto itself. Now you did two interviews with similarly skills candidates and one wants 50% less pay, they just have a british accent.

Re:Remote-first work is taking over the rich world – researc... by EMM_386 on Thursday October 28, 2021 @11:19PM (#29034798)
> I'd be curious to know as well, but I'm guessing he means Europe.

Other commenters have addressed this, but the term is normally used for teams within +/- the same timezone but at far lower rates for (hopefully) good engineering quality.

So if you are US EST, there are "near shore" companies in the US that will coordinate you with South American teams.

They generally have a PM in the US and developers outside.

Re:Remote-first work is taking over the rich world – researc... by llampx on Friday October 29, 2021 @07:53AM (#29037421)
Near-shoring usually refers to someone on the same timezone or nearby physically, like South America or Mexico for the US, or Eastern Europe for Western Europe.

In terms of European talent being paid less, yes I agree they are, but there are hidden costs in terms of taxes and compliance that means that companies would rather go to countries which promise an order of magnitude cheaper resources rather than just 50% off.

Re:Remote-first work is taking over the rich world – researc... by nixgeek on Thursday October 28, 2021 @11:07PM (#29034740)
It’s corporate language for hiring in a similar timezone but less expensive country. Instead of hiring in the U.S. you put people in Mexico or South America.

Another term is “best shoring”, which is code for wherever you can find talent capable of doing the job for the least amount.

Re:Remote-first work is taking over the rich world – researc... by Raidion on Thursday October 28, 2021 @10:55PM (#29034680)
For US, it's south America. Same time zone, cheaper labor costs.
Re:Remote-first work is taking over the rich world – researc... by rsj_hn on Friday October 29, 2021 @12:16AM (#29035120)
Interesting. I've been thinking about spending some time in Chile -- what is the English situation in Chile or Peru?
Re:Remote-first work is taking over the rich world – researc... by helloguillecl on Saturday October 30, 2021 @07:55AM (#29048078)
Younger people speak English but it depends what you want to do. People are friendly so they will normally try to help you out anyways. Let me know if you need any advice: guillermog|at|netnotion|dot|com
Re:Remote-first work is taking over the rich world – researc... by wyclif on Friday October 29, 2021 @12:10AM (#29035087)
Specifically Chile or Peru, judging from where some of my friends in the industry are living now.
Re:Remote-first work is taking over the rich world – researc... by hodgesrm on Thursday October 28, 2021 @11:29PM (#29034860)
"Near shore" == "Canada"