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Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors by klelatti on Monday October 18, 2021 @02:18PM (#28909131)
In this context the absence of the 27 inch iMac was interesting. If these SoC were not deemed to be 'right' for the bigger iMac then possibly a more CPU focused / developer focused SoC may be in the works for the iMac?
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors by julienb_sea on Monday October 18, 2021 @03:50PM (#28910680)
I doubt they are going to make different chips for prosumer devices. They are going to spread out the M1 pro/max upgrade to the rest of the lineup at some point during the next year, so they can claim "full transition" through their quoted 2 years.

The wildcard is the actual mac pro. I suspect we aren't going to hear about mac pro until next Sept/Oct events, and super unclear what direction they are going to go. Maybe allowing config of multiple M1 max SOCs somehow working together. Seems complicated.

Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors by klelatti on Monday October 18, 2021 @04:16PM (#28911068)
On reflection I think they've decided that their pro users want 'more GPU not more CPU' - they could easily have added a couple more CPU cores but it obviously wasn't a priority.

Agreed that it's hard to see how designing a CPU just for the Mac Pro would make any kind of economic sense but equally struggling to see what else they can do!

Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors by arvinsim on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @03:49AM (#28915804)
There is only so much you can do improving the CPU.

On the other hand, we still haven't really reached the limit for GPUs.

Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors by klelatti on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @06:32AM (#28916660)
I suppose it’s the software - most CPU software is primarily designed to run on a single / few cores. GPU code is massively parallel by design.
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors by meerita on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @06:11AM (#28916557)
I think we will see iMac Pro with incredible performance. Mac Pros, maybe in the next years to come. It's a really high end product to release new specs. Plus, in they release it with M1 Max chips, what would be the difference? a nicer case and more upgrading slot? I don't see the advantage of power. I think Mac Pros will be upgraded like in 2 years ahead
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors by madeofpalk on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @06:31AM (#28916659)
The real question for the Mac Pros is whether the GPU is changeable or not, and what that means for shared memory.
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors by wmf on Monday October 18, 2021 @02:40PM (#28909579)
Nah, it'll be the same M1 Max. Just wait a few months like with the 24" iMac.
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors by klelatti on Monday October 18, 2021 @02:42PM (#28909604)
You're probably right. Maybe they have inventory to work through!
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors by nicoburns on Monday October 18, 2021 @03:55PM (#28910738)
They might also have supply constraints on these new chips. I suspect they are going to sell a lot of these new MacBook Pros
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors by iSnow on Monday October 18, 2021 @05:11PM (#28911818)
They also have a limited headcount and resources so they wouldn't want to announce M1x/pro/max for all machines now and have employees be idle for the next 3 months.

Notebooks also have a higher profit margin, so they sell them to those who need to upgrade now. The lower-margin systems like Mini will come later. And the Mac Pro will either die or come with the next iteration of the chips.

Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors by ellisv on Monday October 18, 2021 @05:49PM (#28912254)
The Mac Pro might be blocked, or still progressing, through design changes more so than chip changes.
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors by sroussey on Monday October 18, 2021 @03:53PM (#28910720)
Yeah, M1 Pro/Max on iMac 30” likely in 2022 H1. Mini also, I imagine.
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors by matthew_kuiash on Monday October 18, 2021 @04:57PM (#28911619)
Yup. Once I saw the 24" iMac I knew the 27" had had it's chips. 30" won't actually be much bigger than the 27" if the bezels shrink to almost nothing - which seems to be the trend.
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors by meerita on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @06:25AM (#28916630)
I wish 34" iMac Pro M1 Max.