Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors
by klelatti on Monday October 18, 2021 @02:18PM
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In this context the absence of the 27 inch iMac was interesting. If these SoC were not deemed to be 'right' for the bigger iMac then possibly a more CPU focused / developer focused SoC may be in the works for the iMac?
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Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors
by julienb_sea on Monday October 18, 2021 @03:50PM
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I doubt they are going to make different chips for prosumer devices. They are going to spread out the M1 pro/max upgrade to the rest of the lineup at some point during the next year, so they can claim "full transition" through their quoted 2 years.
The wildcard is the actual mac pro. I suspect we aren't going to hear about mac pro until next Sept/Oct events, and super unclear what direction they are going to go. Maybe allowing config of multiple M1 max SOCs somehow working together. Seems complicated.
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors
by klelatti on Monday October 18, 2021 @04:16PM
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On reflection I think they've decided that their pro users want 'more GPU not more CPU' - they could easily have added a couple more CPU cores but it obviously wasn't a priority.
Agreed that it's hard to see how designing a CPU just for the Mac Pro would make any kind of economic sense but equally struggling to see what else they can do!
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors
by arvinsim on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @03:49AM
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There is only so much you can do improving the CPU.
On the other hand, we still haven't really reached the limit for GPUs.
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors
by klelatti on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @06:32AM
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I suppose it’s the software - most CPU software is primarily designed to run on a single / few cores. GPU code is massively parallel by design.
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors
by meerita on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @06:11AM
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I think we will see iMac Pro with incredible performance. Mac Pros, maybe in the next years to come. It's a really high end product to release new specs. Plus, in they release it with M1 Max chips, what would be the difference? a nicer case and more upgrading slot? I don't see the advantage of power. I think Mac Pros will be upgraded like in 2 years ahead
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors
by madeofpalk on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @06:31AM
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The real question for the Mac Pros is whether the GPU is changeable or not, and what that means for shared memory.
Nah, it'll be the same M1 Max. Just wait a few months like with the 24" iMac.
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors
by klelatti on Monday October 18, 2021 @02:42PM
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You're probably right. Maybe they have inventory to work through!
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors
by nicoburns on Monday October 18, 2021 @03:55PM
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They might also have supply constraints on these new chips. I suspect they are going to sell a lot of these new MacBook Pros
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors
by iSnow on Monday October 18, 2021 @05:11PM
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They also have a limited headcount and resources so they wouldn't want to announce M1x/pro/max for all machines now and have employees be idle for the next 3 months.
Notebooks also have a higher profit margin, so they sell them to those who need to upgrade now. The lower-margin systems like Mini will come later. And the Mac Pro will either die or come with the next iteration of the chips.
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors
by ellisv on Monday October 18, 2021 @05:49PM
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The Mac Pro might be blocked, or still progressing, through design changes more so than chip changes.
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors
by sroussey on Monday October 18, 2021 @03:53PM
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Yeah, M1 Pro/Max on iMac 30” likely in 2022 H1. Mini also, I imagine.
Re:Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors
by matthew_kuiash on Monday October 18, 2021 @04:57PM
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Yup. Once I saw the 24" iMac I knew the 27" had had it's chips. 30" won't actually be much bigger than the 27" if the bezels shrink to almost nothing - which seems to be the trend.