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Re:Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days? by jonathanlydall on Saturday October 16, 2021 @06:49AM (#28886961)
No, not when it’s actually off. If you’ve shut down, then it won’t do this, but if you put it to sleep it can.

That being said, I hate this, with my old laptop I could close the lid and pop it in the bag and it would lose maybe 5-10% battery per day, with new laptop it happily unsleeps itself in the bag which has zero ventilation.

So for safety reasons I have to shut my laptop down before putting it in my bag, then have to wait for it to start up (which is slow due to corporate software) before being able to use it again.

Re:Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days? by massysett on Saturday October 16, 2021 @07:19AM (#28887091)
I’ve been using Macs for over five years now and before that I was all Linux. From reading this it looks like Windows has actually reverted to where Linux was over five years ago: having to fiddle with the machine to get sleep to work. That’s just sad.
Re:Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days? by jonwinstanley on Saturday October 16, 2021 @08:42AM (#28887461)
Windows wasn't good at this in the past either. Didn't they used to have sleep, hibernate and a load of other options too?
Re:Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days? by tom_ on Saturday October 16, 2021 @10:11AM (#28888003)
Just sleep/hibernate/restart/shut down, as far as I can remember? - sleep vs hibernate being a distinction you want, in my view, as the battery drain/restart time behaviours are different. I'm sure I don't need to explain why separate restart and shut down options are a good idea.

(Never liked not having the sleep/hibernate choice on macOS. I know better than the computer what my upcoming plans are!)

Re:Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days? by Izkata on Saturday October 16, 2021 @01:56PM (#28889865)
Windows ha(s/d) suspend/sleep/hibernate/restart/shutdown.

Sleep was a suspend/hibernate hybrid that allowed fast restarts if you still had power, but would restore from disk hibernate-style if you ran out of power while suspended.

Re:Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days? by dividedbyzero on Saturday October 16, 2021 @10:25AM (#28888102)
You could make Macs hibernate via the CLI until a few versions back at least, maybe you still can? I used that occasionally, but at some point sleep got so good I stopped bothering. If I disable the waking up to fetch mail and the like thingy in Settings, mine will hardly lose any battery even when sleeping for extended periods.
Re:Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days? by pxc on Saturday October 16, 2021 @08:51PM (#28893000)
Macs can't even toggle session saving behavior through the CLI; your only chance to toggle session saving it is logging out via the GUI.

My experiences with macOS involved tons of unexpected sharp corners like that. Really feels half-finished when you're coming from Linux, as ironic as that sounds

Re:Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days? by jonwinstanley on Saturday October 16, 2021 @03:50PM (#28890868)
I’ve been on Mac so long that all 5 options feel erroneous. I just close my laptop lid when I’m done.
Re:Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days? by cma on Saturday October 16, 2021 @10:27PM (#28893442)
I've had the same problem on Mac, if you leave an SD card in it drains completely.
Re:Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days? by chrislipa on Saturday October 16, 2021 @07:49AM (#28887190)
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Re:Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days? by 867-5309 on Saturday October 16, 2021 @08:35AM (#28887407)
(me typing on a mac keyboard)
Re:Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days? by gsich on Saturday October 16, 2021 @08:41AM (#28887451)
Try Hibernate.