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Re:Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days? by jonwinstanley on Saturday October 16, 2021 @08:42AM (#28887461)
Windows wasn't good at this in the past either. Didn't they used to have sleep, hibernate and a load of other options too?
Re:Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days? by tom_ on Saturday October 16, 2021 @10:11AM (#28888003)
Just sleep/hibernate/restart/shut down, as far as I can remember? - sleep vs hibernate being a distinction you want, in my view, as the battery drain/restart time behaviours are different. I'm sure I don't need to explain why separate restart and shut down options are a good idea.

(Never liked not having the sleep/hibernate choice on macOS. I know better than the computer what my upcoming plans are!)

Re:Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days? by Izkata on Saturday October 16, 2021 @01:56PM (#28889865)
Windows ha(s/d) suspend/sleep/hibernate/restart/shutdown.

Sleep was a suspend/hibernate hybrid that allowed fast restarts if you still had power, but would restore from disk hibernate-style if you ran out of power while suspended.

Re:Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days? by dividedbyzero on Saturday October 16, 2021 @10:25AM (#28888102)
You could make Macs hibernate via the CLI until a few versions back at least, maybe you still can? I used that occasionally, but at some point sleep got so good I stopped bothering. If I disable the waking up to fetch mail and the like thingy in Settings, mine will hardly lose any battery even when sleeping for extended periods.
Re:Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days? by pxc on Saturday October 16, 2021 @08:51PM (#28893000)
Macs can't even toggle session saving behavior through the CLI; your only chance to toggle session saving it is logging out via the GUI.

My experiences with macOS involved tons of unexpected sharp corners like that. Really feels half-finished when you're coming from Linux, as ironic as that sounds

Re:Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days? by jonwinstanley on Saturday October 16, 2021 @03:50PM (#28890868)
I’ve been on Mac so long that all 5 options feel erroneous. I just close my laptop lid when I’m done.