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Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by mkhpalm on Wednesday October 13, 2021 @11:21PM (#28860186)
One example I can remember from 10+ years ago was newegg. I don't recall ever really feeling like I got "duped" based on the many online reviews there. I think that sentiment was pretty well revered and not just my personal opinions of it. Everything was pretty well spot on from my experiences. That said, I have no idea how that would fair these days.

I'll even go so far as to say back when Amazon was getting started their reviews were a lot more reliable as well.

Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by makeitdouble on Thursday October 14, 2021 @12:52AM (#28860637)
It should be pointed out that current fake review issues are not just on fraudulent products.

For instance Aukey has been caught by Amazon, but in my experience their products were pretty good, and they probably played the fake review game mainly due to everyone else playing it, and it became an arms race.

Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by qaq on Thursday October 14, 2021 @01:41AM (#28860856)
The cynical take Aukey was taken out because they had good products and good reputation in a high margin category that Amazon wanted for their house brand to play a bigger role in.
Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by jonathankoren on Thursday October 14, 2021 @02:03AM (#28860979)
I would have called this conspiracy territory, but then it broke that Amazon was doing exactly that in India.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/amazon-i...

Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by KajMagnus on Thursday October 14, 2021 @03:20AM (#28861429)
Does this indicate that by not fixing the fake reviews problem, Amazon can, whenever it wants, get rid of a troublesome competitor?

(since the competitors are sort of forced to use fake reviews)

Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by makeitdouble on Thursday October 14, 2021 @04:23AM (#28861756)
I guess it's double bound:

- they can really fix it (e.g. by kicking every fake review mandator) and drown competiting products far below in the search results, leaving "Amazon's choice" ones at the top.

With way fewer reviews it will be harder to argue the ranking results legitimacy.

- they don't fix it, and as you say, get an excuse to kick any random brand trying to stay afloat on their platform.

Either way Amazon wins.

Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by naim08 on Thursday October 14, 2021 @05:33AM (#28862112)
"Amazon's Choice" are also littered with fake reviews. WSJ did a story on this and looked at hundreds of "[AC]" listings and found majority of listings had fake reviews; many of the fake reviews being the top reviews.
Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by HPsquared on Thursday October 14, 2021 @04:20AM (#28861738)
It's selective enforcement, in a different context.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_enforcement

Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by KajMagnus on Thursday October 14, 2021 @01:45PM (#28867502)
Thanks, interesting reading, and some from there linked topics as well
Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by blfr on Thursday October 14, 2021 @03:36AM (#28861513)
I would have called this conspiracy territory

It is a conspiracy theory. Some of them are just true.

Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by jonathankoren on Thursday October 14, 2021 @11:14AM (#28865430)
Touché
Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by lepouet on Thursday October 14, 2021 @06:43AM (#28862582)
Today i was looking for a nice gan usb c charger, surprise, an AmazonBasics charger was one of the first result and the only recognizable brand.

And the first, promoted, comment/ratings is from a guy who received the product for free in exchange for a review.

https://www.amazon.fr/AmazonBasics-One-Port-Charger-Tablets-...

Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by MomoXenosaga on Thursday October 14, 2021 @06:24AM (#28862434)
The whole advertising industry is an arms race.

Unless your product is so revolutionary or cheap you're gonna need marketing.

Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by hodgesrm on Wednesday October 13, 2021 @11:43PM (#28860287)
Newegg reviews were pretty good--they steered me away from a lot of noisy gear when building servers. That kind of feedback does not exist in the specs.
Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by TedDoesntTalk on Wednesday October 13, 2021 @11:43PM (#28860285)
Ebay seller reviews have been fraudulent for 20 years or more (not ALL reviews, of course).

And i think you are talking about the times before NewEgg had 3rd party sellers.

Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by foota on Wednesday October 13, 2021 @11:55PM (#28860347)
Honestly, I think 3rd party sellers are half the problem. Eliminating them won't fix everything though, since there are sites where the 1st party itself is dishonest (e.g., yelp), but if you trust the site and it is all 1st party then you're in a good state for reviews, since there's little incentive for anyone to fake them.
Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by DavidPeiffer on Thursday October 14, 2021 @06:18AM (#28862394)
>Honestly, I think 3rd party sellers are half the problem.

Totally agree. Right now there's a spread from anyone can review anything (yelp, Google reviews) to purchase required to review. What if only 1 out of 20 purchases, selected randomly, were allowed to place a review?

Single person review shops become easier to spot - they are suddenly ordering way more than typical. Returns might skyrocket, which is expensive for everyone involved, however there's now another signal available to spot odd patterns of behavior.

Inclusion of a restocking fee, which is obviously not popular with consumers, is another option which would help make it more expensive to fake reviews.

Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by kube-system on Thursday October 14, 2021 @01:55AM (#28860927)
Manufacturers or importers/distributors would still have incentive to fake them.
Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by lotsofpulp on Thursday October 14, 2021 @05:00AM (#28861952)
There would be far fewer of them, and the consequences may not be worth it. That is why trust in a Target or Costco vetted vendor is higher than a small time seller named “eBizValue”.
Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by smashed on Wednesday October 13, 2021 @11:46PM (#28860301)
A++++++
Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by tw04 on Wednesday October 13, 2021 @11:36PM (#28860247)
I think you mean duped?
Re:FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews by mkhpalm on Thursday October 14, 2021 @12:05AM (#28860402)
Ah yeah... typo I guess