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Re:Full WireGuard Support in ProtonVPN for Android by oliverjudge on Monday October 11, 2021 @03:40PM (#28832137)
It’s nice to see one of these providers upgrading their protocols away from openvpn and the like, but it still doesn’t solve the problem of these commercial VPN’s are still just someone else’s computer.
Re:Full WireGuard Support in ProtonVPN for Android by jvanderbot on Monday October 11, 2021 @05:01PM (#28833032)
If what you care about is encrypting traffic, then set up WG yourself and have a free tier / $3/m machine do the relay. Or your router. It's so easy there's really no excuse not to.

If what you care about is anonymizing your traffic, then you need someone else's computer. That's the idea, to mix your traffic in with a bunch of other traffic.

Re:Full WireGuard Support in ProtonVPN for Android by zibzab on Monday October 11, 2021 @05:02PM (#28833046)
I'm pretty sure that 50% of VPN companies are run by spy agencies

Some of the rest are probably run by criminals.

Oh yeah, let us not forget Facebook whose vpn app was created mainly to snoop on you other network activities

Edit: remember that you can roll your own temporary vpn: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials?q=vpn

Re:Full WireGuard Support in ProtonVPN for Android by TravisHusky on Monday October 11, 2021 @03:54PM (#28832309)
It is really nice, OpenVPN is good, but it is definitely harder to configure, and slower. I also like that it is hard to shoot yourself in the foot with Wireguard given it is really hard to mess up and create an insecure config.

ProtonVPN is also at least a bit better than other commercial VPNs, specifically the "Secure Core" feature is quite good. Proton is one of only like two or three companies I actually trust when it comes to their security and honesty.

Re:Full WireGuard Support in ProtonVPN for Android by Forbo on Monday October 11, 2021 @03:46PM (#28832216)
If a VPN isn't sufficient for your threat model, then you need to be using something like Tor, I2P, or Nym.
Re:Full WireGuard Support in ProtonVPN for Android by emptyparadise on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @02:49AM (#28836816)
Most of the internet consists of somebody else's computers, doesn't it? Not that this makes shady VPN provider practices okay.
Re:Full WireGuard Support in ProtonVPN for Android by stingraycharles on Monday October 11, 2021 @04:04PM (#28832408)
But if you would want a more secure alternative, there are options like Tor and I2P right? Or do you have something else in mind?
Re:Full WireGuard Support in ProtonVPN for Android by Skunkleton on Monday October 11, 2021 @06:34PM (#28833855)
I think the point is that public VPNs don't provide much additional security. Basically they just let you act from a different location on the internet. Is your traffic safer egressing on to the public network from your current location, or from the VPN's location? In some cases the VPN may be better. In others, your local network makes more sense.