Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by connor-brooks on Friday October 08, 2021 @10:11AM
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The one thing that is lacking from Safari is extensions. If this does what I believe then it will be my main browser. Safari adblocking sucks atm.
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Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by drcongo on Friday October 08, 2021 @10:14AM
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Safari has extensions. Apple has just made them incredibly difficult to find by burying them in the Mac App Store.
Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by Macha on Friday October 08, 2021 @08:36PM
(#28805880)
And by requiring an Apple Developer Account and associated tooling, they've made them just hard enough to develop that the long tail won't bother porting.
Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by spurgu on Friday October 08, 2021 @08:57PM
(#28806019)
"Has" yes. Last time I checked the selection was horrible and most of the seemingly good ones were paid. Have things changed in the past 6-12 months?
Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by micromacrofoot on Friday October 08, 2021 @10:34AM
(#28799750)
Strongly recommend ad blocking on the network level with something like a pihole, one of the best tech related things I've ever done
Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by franga2000 on Friday October 08, 2021 @11:05AM
(#28800131)
Network-level blockers are very crude and tend to cause errors that are hard to debug and fix. I get it if you have no other option and they work well enough with a very conservative blocklist, but in my experience a dedicated extension will block more ads, block them better (no blank spots in pages), break legitimate content less often and when it does be far easier to temporarily bypass.
Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by micromacrofoot on Friday October 08, 2021 @11:36AM
(#28800426)
I've tracked down the "legitimate content" a few times and these are usually trackers, just baked in so deeply they break the content too.
Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by zamadatix on Friday October 08, 2021 @12:57PM
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Sure but the point is a browser level adblockers can separate the tracker content from the legitimate content while a network level blocker can either block both or neither.
Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by micromacrofoot on Friday October 08, 2021 @02:49PM
(#28802688)
Yes, but I can't install browser ad blockers on gaming consoles, TVs, and whatever other appliances the internet of shit will produce.
Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by indianets on Friday October 08, 2021 @03:04PM
(#28802853)
Also other apps.
Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by maxmcd on Friday October 08, 2021 @11:16AM
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So many large sites have started serving ads through the hostnames that serve their applications. It feels like a losing battle to keep only blocking at the DNS level.
Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by cpmsmith on Friday October 08, 2021 @10:36AM
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It's true this is nice, but it's no replacement for a browser extension, and only does anything while you're at home.
Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by micromacrofoot on Friday October 08, 2021 @10:59AM
(#28800067)
I haven't left my home in what feels like 1000 years
Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by jonwest on Friday October 08, 2021 @11:05AM
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Unless you’re also automating a VPN connection to your home network when you leave it, which can be very helpful if you’re running something like pihole
Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by cpuguy83 on Friday October 08, 2021 @10:50AM
(#28799948)
I've had pinhole straight up break real sites. Took me a bit to figure out it was pihole and not some browser extension.
Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by Brajeshwar on Friday October 08, 2021 @10:30AM
(#28799704)
I'm on Safari, with the occasional testing and account segregations with Chrome. The combination of AdGuard[1] (found via SetApp[2]) and NextDNS[3] works for me well on Safari.
Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by drcongo on Friday October 08, 2021 @10:49AM
(#28799935)
I use the AdGuard extension too, with a Raspberry Pi running AdGuard Home which in turn uses NextDNS. I highly recommend every part of this setup, it's maintenance free, extremely reliable and I can't remember the last time an ad or tracker got through it.
Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by ezfe on Friday October 08, 2021 @03:07PM
(#28802889)
I use Wipr and nothing else and don't see ads in Safari
Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by dubya on Friday October 08, 2021 @11:40AM
(#28800464)
The adblocker Wipr has recently added something beyond the Content Blocker API with Wipr Extra. I only found it because I had forgotten to switch to AdGuard on my office Mac, and Wipr Extra showed up in an update. Lots of restrictions and caveats though about what it can and can't do. Some details at
https://giorgiocalderolla.com/wipr-faq.html#what-is-wipr-ext...
Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by qsort on Friday October 08, 2021 @10:14AM
(#28799501)
I have been happy so far with Adguard. It's not ublock origin but it will do the job.
Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by imbnwa on Friday October 08, 2021 @01:59PM
(#28802136)
Am a beta tester, Orion has growing support for WebExtensions API. You can run uBlock Origin and Dark Reader right now, for example.
Re:Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
by jiveturkey on Saturday October 09, 2021 @01:00AM
(#28807185)
There is more than one thing lacking from Safari. Profiles is a pretty big one as well.