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Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by akersten on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @04:28PM (#28778019)
Weird. I thought all the apps were already reviewed and approved by a specialized and trained committee before being blessed with a space in the App Store. What could we possibly need this button for?
Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by happybuy on Thursday October 07, 2021 @12:08AM (#28781750)
Being an App Store developer is like intentionally walking into an abusive relationship and hoping that the pay-off will be worth the trouble.

I'm sure you're aware but, as an app developer, the review process seems random at many times.

Depending upon the phase of the moon certain features or metadata may be accepted or rejected in apps. Even when the exact same features have been accepted in prior app versions and app reviews (without changes to the actual guidelines).

In such cases, perhaps Apple's interpretation of the guidelines have changed. If so, there's no way for app developers to know this until they get hit with a rejection. Rejections rarely include explanation of the interpretation so it's up to the developer to try and interpret what the real issue is.

This is on top of the fact that, in many cases, Apple deliberately uses the guidelines and shifting interpretations to delay or destroy competitors. This occurs even if competitors are acting within the guidelines and all prior known interpretations of those guidelines.

Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by bryan_w on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @05:06PM (#28778407)
Yeah, they did say that these processes were part of the value that developers _gladly_ pay 30% + $100 for...
Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by martimarkov on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @05:12PM (#28778490)
They also don’t force developers to pay $99 or 30%
Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by Closi on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @04:31PM (#28778047)
Eh, it’s pretty easy to hide things behind a feature flag during the review process.
Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by jedberg on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @04:44PM (#28778178)
I think their point is that the App Store review process is random and arbitrary.
Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by bilbo0s on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @06:14PM (#28779159)
Which is not to say that "Report a Scam or Fraud" is a bad policy.

App Store review can be random, AND this can be a good policy. (Well, good for consumers. I could see it causing developers some issues if competitors weaponize it.)

Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by mcny on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @04:47PM (#28778221)
I, for one, like the f-droid model or you could say any sane package manager model.

When I download a package from f-droid repository, I know the folks at f-droid have the source code of the bits I downloaded. Same thing with Debian and Fedora. Why can't Apple do the same thing? Require developers to submit machine-readable source code along with build instructions. Build them directly on Apple servers. Sign them with Apple's certificates.

I am not an Apple developer. As a consumer, I would welcome such a change.

Now, it is true that you could have a web view that fetches application chrome/content from a web server but I would argue Apple should disallow such apps anyway.

Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by etchalon on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @05:20PM (#28778606)
While that might be a great idea, Apple is a competitor of many of the companies in the App Store. I'm not sure how they'd feel about their largest competitor having access to their absolutely-valuable-and-secret source code.
Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by pabs3 on Thursday October 07, 2021 @01:04AM (#28782219)
They could require it be stored with a reputable escrow company.
Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by matsemann on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @04:50PM (#28778261)
Huh, what's the value in the review process then..?
Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by heavyset_go on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @06:32PM (#28779306)
To limit competition.
Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by floatingatoll on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @08:36PM (#28780290)
Human error.
Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by endisneigh on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @04:51PM (#28778263)
This is a strange comment. Do you think people are infallible? lol.
Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by actusual on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @05:01PM (#28778368)
The comparison to HN is wrong. Moderators would first have to read the comments and let them through.
Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by endisneigh on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @05:17PM (#28778557)
My point is that even if moderators did read the comments and let them through, that wouldn't obviate the need, since moderators aren't perfect.
Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by cptskippy on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @05:02PM (#28778378)
Part of Apple's argument in the Epic case was that their screening process mitigated the need for things like this.

This is essentially an admission that their review process has problems.

Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by etchalon on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @05:23PM (#28778634)
Apple admitted that? They've never claimed it's perfect. Just that it's better than not having it.
Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by bagels on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @04:56PM (#28778314)
I think the charitable take is that the comment is in jest.
Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by didntknowya on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @07:17PM (#28779706)
if we had to pay to submit comments and wait a few days or even weeks for it to go through the company's "stringent" rules before it is approved, then yes a flagging button is counterintuitive.
Re:New “Report a Problem” link on product pages by endisneigh on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @08:17PM (#28780145)
not really, you think it would be perfect? there are plenty of review systems that take literally years and still fail. If you're based in the USA you should be familiar with these.