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Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by sandworm101 on Sunday September 26, 2021 @12:39AM (#28658446)
>> ... to digital abundance.

Really? Spotify and Netflix pale in comparison to what Napster was. For all the content you think you have access to, Napster gave us the ability to see what other people had stored on their drives, stuff that they wanted to share rather than whatever media Spotify has a license for. That opened a world of discovery unmatched by any streaming service, or all of them put together. Want a club track from an unknown Russian group that only existed for a few nights back in 1998? That was on Napster. Netflix cannot deliver classic Simpsons episodes.

Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by nitrogen on Sunday September 26, 2021 @01:03AM (#28658540)
No streaming site will ever have licenses for the bizarre remixes of video game themes, or the Sesame Street theme, that made their way around Napster.

More than the music, though, Napster had chat rooms where you could get legit recommendations of new music that far exceeded the recommendation engines of today.

Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by yboris on Sunday September 26, 2021 @02:45AM (#28658917)
The pinnacle of sharing music was Audiogalaxy
Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by fumar on Sunday September 26, 2021 @10:34AM (#28661178)
I loved Audiogalaxy but Soulseek was the best in its prime. Either way I miss those days. It felt like the whole world was open to sharing.
Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by alangibson on Sunday September 26, 2021 @06:19AM (#28659736)
Fully agree. I discovered Tenacious D though their early bootlegs on AG. The amount of stuff they had available had never been matched.
Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by blackearl on Sunday September 26, 2021 @09:00AM (#28660544)
what.cd was the high point IMO
Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by cannabis_sam on Sunday September 26, 2021 @11:13AM (#28661478)
Oink, what.cd, and the redacted followers, were on a level that commercial streaming will never ever reach.

(The only reason is our absurd, anti-culture copyright laws)

Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by flatiron on Sunday September 26, 2021 @10:16AM (#28661064)
Redacted is still very good. Sadly spotify makes it too easy so I stopped pirating music.
Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by anoncow on Sunday September 26, 2021 @11:15AM (#28661503)
This! A web browser based UI which would trigger downloads in a native download manager is a user experience which is unparalleled to the day!
Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by vadfa on Sunday September 26, 2021 @06:47AM (#28659840)
You know, Soulseek exists.
Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by marcodiego on Sunday September 26, 2021 @08:55AM (#28660519)
I'm impressed soulseek exists and is popular. I think it is the only centralized p2p network which survived.
Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by Assumer on Sunday September 26, 2021 @01:33AM (#28658658)
Grooveshark came close, but it was always going to get shut down
Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by consumer451 on Sunday September 26, 2021 @01:49AM (#28658719)
Hotline was pretty exciting. Did anyone else here get involved with this? [0]

Back when broadband had just hit Seattle I ran a server on an old PowerPC

IA paraphrased quote from a user:

> I am actually signed to TVT records but it this server’s contents that enables my creativity.

These days I pay for everything, but that testament to digital freedom sticks with me.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotline_Communications

Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by 0des on Sunday September 26, 2021 @08:55AM (#28660517)
Hotline is still up :) Now we use KDX, Pitbull Pro and a few others, but it's still around. Check out Preterhuman.
Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by nodesocket on Sunday September 26, 2021 @11:04AM (#28661417)
Hotline, brings me back. Find the third word ending in ‘ed’ after clicking the banner ad. That’s your hotline password.
Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by amatecha on Sunday September 26, 2021 @03:31AM (#28659086)
I'm actually logged into an hl server as we speak! (Higher Intellect) .. Still some of my favorite internet memories. I still insist my fast typing speed is due to chatting for hours and hours every night on there :)
Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by karlshea on Sunday September 26, 2021 @03:29AM (#28659082)
Yes! Hotline was wild.
Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by kalleboo on Sunday September 26, 2021 @08:49AM (#28660478)
I am not affiliated in any way with SADwyw spider.

I agree to delete all backups within 24 hours as per the internet act signed by Bill Clinton.

Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by mustacheemperor on Sunday September 26, 2021 @01:51AM (#28658722)
What.CD is another unparalleled archive that is now gone for good. Rips of old beat tapes from the 90s, obscure electronica releases, all kinds of stuff that it seems won’t ever be found anywhere else.
Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by ihusasmiiu on Sunday September 26, 2021 @02:20AM (#28658812)
Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by washadjeffmad on Sunday September 26, 2021 @10:46AM (#28661278)
You know, the only reason I've never joined a music tracker was because until this thread I'd forgotten what it was like to have a pure, limitless, non-commercial library of everything audio.

Not that many years before the dawn of BitTorrent, I was making, mixing, and trading APEs and FLACs of self-recorded tapes (dubs, live, local) and record collections in niche communities and channels that no longer exist- bullied off the net because they didn't make money for someone else. I lost everything to hardware failure a few years later and left the scene, but I'd be thrilled to find anything from back then still circulating.

Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by crtasm on Monday September 27, 2021 @08:19AM (#28669739)
for recordings of live shows try dimeadozen.org
Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by worrycue on Monday September 27, 2021 @04:00AM (#28668212)
I wonder if we can go back to that and still compensate artists.

Have a music sharing service accessible via subscription. You can share anything you want including copyrighted music. If someone downloads copyrighted music from you, detected via audio fingerprinting, the service will pay the copyright holder from subscription fees - kind of like how streaming services do it now.

Granted this would require copyright holders to all buy-in but I guess we can just exclude the music of non-cooperating copyright holders from the network, again via fingerprinting, although this “restricted form” of the service will be of lesser value.

Now that I think about it, in a way, I feel YouTube has already taken up this role in the aforementioned restricted form since it publishes everything without seeking anyone’s permission and only removed stuff if there are complains.

Re:Napster.com banned at some universities for clogging netw... by r3trohack3r on Sunday September 26, 2021 @10:36AM (#28661201)
Torrent Roulette (rebranded to Taboo and disabled download by default) scratched this exact itch for me:

https://github.com/retrohacker/taboo