News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e... by fsflover on Friday September 17, 2021 @06:52AM (#28563768)
The actual problem is not that Apple removed the app. It's that there is no other way to install the app if Apple removes it from their store.
Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e... by prepend on Friday September 17, 2021 @10:57AM (#28566214)
I disagree. I think the problem is that Apple is choosing to support dictators by removing this app.

The ability to side load apps is a smokescreen because only 1% of people would use any alternate means.

So even if they had alternate app stores, Apple removing it from the main App Store is egregious.

Similar to how it’s terrible that Google removed it even though it’s available in alternate stores.

(Of course Apple should allow sideloading and other app stores)

Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e... by whimsicalism on Friday September 17, 2021 @11:33AM (#28566658)
> I disagree. I think the problem is that Apple is choosing to support dictators by removing this app.

Is he still a dictator if he would win contested elections?

The polling on Putin in Russia is pretty darn clearcut, don't see how you can look at the numbers I do and conclude anything other than that Putin has the tacit support of most of the population.

Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e... by prepend on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @12:34PM (#28618425)
Take a look at the Soviet bloc elections. They won by big margins through voter suppression and much more.

Castro was elected for what, 50 years. He was definitely a dictator.

There was (is) voter suppression in the US and the civil rights movement directly worked to overturn polls that showed that only white governors and mayors in the south will win.

I don’t think Russian polls can be interpreted fairly to mean Putin has the tacit support of most of the population. Putin’s opponents are jailed and they are billionaires. If I get a poll, I’m not going to answer honestly due to fear.

Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e... by simondotau on Friday September 17, 2021 @08:04AM (#28564447)
I can't imagine how such an app could be in any way complicated. Why is it not just a website?
Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e... by fsflover on Friday September 17, 2021 @08:08AM (#28564484)
Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e... by simondotau on Friday September 17, 2021 @08:14AM (#28564527)
Thanks. Honestly though I'm surprised, I would have thought blocking specific HTTPS websites wasn't so easy.
Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e... by whimsicalism on Friday September 17, 2021 @11:49AM (#28566882)
HTTPS reveals domain, only subdomain/folder is encrypted.
Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e... by JamesSwift on Friday September 17, 2021 @09:25AM (#28565195)
The domain is still typically passed unencrypted with HTTPS
Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e... by ericmay on Friday September 17, 2021 @08:20AM (#28564568)
Why wouldn’t they just force other app stores to pull the app too?
Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e... by fsflover on Friday September 17, 2021 @08:30AM (#28564667)
Such as F-Droid?
Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e... by ericmay on Friday September 17, 2021 @08:35AM (#28564712)
Any reason they can’t just block the site? Is F-Droid a good option for this kind of mobile app?

I guess you can say they wind up playing whack-a-mole with new App Store and websites but that doesn’t seem ideal either. Russians can plant something too.

And Google removed it too. So are users downloading it now from 3rd-party app stores?

Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e... by amarkula on Saturday September 18, 2021 @05:38AM (#28574884)
Longer Streisand effect
Re:Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian e... by 6510 on Friday September 17, 2021 @07:06AM (#28563884)
The problem is that everyone is now talking about the app and the prisoner. Good luck putting the genie back in the bottle.