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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by heurisko on Thursday September 16, 2021 @03:45PM (#28556479)
I was trying to check Disk Partitions on Windows 10, so typed this into the search.

It gave me a website with some freeware tool. I had to search around again until I found the actual system tool. I don't know what a regular user would have done.

I'm not really a Windows user.

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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by jjoonathan on Thursday September 16, 2021 @03:49PM (#28556542)
My favorite is when I see the result I want flash by and then I accidentally type the next character -- correctly -- due to momentum, and the result disappears. Then I delete the last character in an attempt to bring back the result, and then I try retyping the whole thing, but the correct result never reappears. It is gone. Only useless web results remain.
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by deeplowdock on Thursday September 16, 2021 @04:14PM (#28556897)
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search] "BingSearchEnabled"=dword:00000000 "CortanaConsent"=dword:00000000

^ put this into a .reg file, run it, and never see those bullshit web search results again. Have been doing this first thing after a fresh install on every PC.

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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by gregmac on Thursday September 16, 2021 @05:47PM (#28558122)
Much simpler is to just paste to a terminal:

    REG ADD HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search /v BingSearchEnabled /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f
    REG ADD HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search /v CortanaConsent /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by mikevm on Thursday September 16, 2021 @05:01PM (#28557531) 

  Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

  [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Search]
  "ConnectedSearchUseWebOverMeteredConnections"=dword:00000000
  "AllowCortana"=dword:00000000
  "DisableWebSearch"=dword:00000001
  "ConnectedSearchUseWeb"=dword:00000000

  [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search]
  "CortanaConsent"=dword:00000000
  "BingSearchEnabled"=dword:00000000
  "AllowSearchToUseLocation"=dword:00000000
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by dleslie on Thursday September 16, 2021 @04:39PM (#28557242)
You need carriage returns.
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by hbn on Thursday September 16, 2021 @04:44PM (#28557310)
Yeah Windows Search is useless. I'd recommend Everything[0]. Though, it's more for general file searching than searching for programs. Can't remember if it learns your habits and pushes them to the top or not. Regardless it's instantaneous and I almost never use the Windows search since I discovered it

https://www.voidtools.com

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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by mmerlin on Thursday September 16, 2021 @05:24PM (#28557848)
Thanks "Everything" looks like something I will install and use.

I previously used a manually-triggered disk search indexer called Cathy.exe which works well [1]

For "real time (i.e. without the pre-cached index) live searches of filenames and/or contents by keyword/grep I like "Agent Ransack" [2]

It's one of the few things I always use on every windows machine I login to

[1] https://cathy.en.lo4d.com/windows

[2] https://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/

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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by aqfamnzc on Thursday September 16, 2021 @05:58PM (#28558239)
Everything is pretty much the only thing I miss from Windows. Maybe paint.net too. I haven't found a suitable Linux equivalent for either.
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by worble on Friday September 17, 2021 @05:34AM (#28563127)
I quite like pinta as a paint.net replacement. Don't think it's as feature complete, but hits that ease of use sweet spot for really quick crops or adding text, etc.
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by wazzaps on Thursday September 16, 2021 @07:00PM (#28558895)
fsearch replaces "Everything" for me
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by themodelplumber on Friday September 17, 2021 @01:23AM (#28561528)
fsearch is fantastic. Bind it, or various configured states of it, to keystrokes and never look back...
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by Johnythree on Friday September 17, 2021 @07:31AM (#28564148)
I absolutely love "Anything", use it constantly.

Has saved my neck many, many times.

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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by syntheticnature on Thursday September 16, 2021 @03:57PM (#28556651)
This! It's infuriating.

I also find that at first it pulls up File Explorer when I type "exp", but in a flash it switches to Edge. Just wanted a file management window, please.

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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by 369548684892826 on Thursday September 16, 2021 @04:43PM (#28557298)
In case you're not aware: Windows Key + E for a file management window.
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by syntheticnature on Thursday September 16, 2021 @05:04PM (#28557572)
I live in other OSes most of the time, so thank you for this.
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by oynqr on Thursday September 16, 2021 @05:13PM (#28557699)
Unrelated, but that last part of your comment tingled my Litany Against Fear sense. At least I know with which mindset I should encounter Windows 11 now.
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by kodeninja on Thursday September 16, 2021 @06:48PM (#28558787)
This happens on Spotlight as well.
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by watermelon0 on Thursday September 16, 2021 @04:23PM (#28557035)
I've needed it enough time that I won't ever forget "diskmgmt.msc" command, and AFAIK it works since Windows XP.

I'm not really sure what's so problematic with searching settings, but other platforms I use (macOS, iOS) are not really much better in this regard.

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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by Someone1234 on Thursday September 16, 2021 @05:27PM (#28557888)
Disk Management is also in the Power User Menu, just right click the Start Menu orb or Win+X.
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by genewitch on Thursday September 16, 2021 @04:55PM (#28557465)
mmc.exe and you can snap-in diskmgmt, and it will save that in the menu for next time.

Since diskmgmt is mmc with that snap in already snapped in.

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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by da_chicken on Thursday September 16, 2021 @03:54PM (#28556608)
A regular user would have said, "What's a disk partition?"
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Thursday September 16, 2021 @04:55PM (#28557453)
It is still available by right-clicking on the start button. This will almost certainly go away in 11, because MS hates us.
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by tssva on Thursday September 16, 2021 @07:38PM (#28559223)
It is currently available via right click on the start button in Windows 11.
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by GoblinSlayer on Thursday September 16, 2021 @04:48PM (#28557367)
It's diskmgmt.msc, you can just run it the unix way.
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by dylan604 on Thursday September 16, 2021 @05:35PM (#28557982)
By editing a text file?
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by 0-_-0 on Thursday September 16, 2021 @05:52PM (#28558176)
Use a terminal, or just Win+R
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by dylan604 on Friday September 17, 2021 @02:45AM (#28562045)
Just because it's CLI doesn't make it *nix. The 'everything is a text file' is the 'nix.
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by GoblinSlayer on Friday September 17, 2021 @11:29AM (#28566616)
Unix way is when you just know what command to type without searching.
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by 0-_-0 on Friday September 17, 2021 @03:32AM (#28562351)
You don't run something by editing a text file
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by dylan604 on Friday September 17, 2021 @01:17PM (#28568075)
cron would like to have a word with you as would init.d
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by 0-_-0 on Friday September 17, 2021 @01:36PM (#28568378)
So you use cron whenever you want to launch an executable? This "UNIX way" seems terribly convoluted.
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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by dylan604 on Friday September 17, 2021 @02:34PM (#28569221)
So you use cron whenever you want to launch an executable on a scheduled basis.

Edit: Arguing that running executables via CLI is what makes things *nix is just missing the point. In case your unfamiliar with the 'everything is a file concept:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everything_is_a_file

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Re:Windows 11: Just say no by GoblinSlayer on Monday September 20, 2021 @03:02AM (#28590995)
Unix way isn't running via CLI, but knowing what to type to run what you want, because it's faster than GUI, while GUI provides you contextual information to help you discover what you can do.

>In case your unfamiliar with the 'everything is a file concept

But then Linus gives a rant how he hates polymorphism and overloading.

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