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Re:The ownership and future of Mullvad VPN by legrande on Thursday September 16, 2021 @10:11AM (#28552037)
> Mullvad VPN is here to stay, and we are not interested in ever selling it

Yeah we don't want another Kape Technologies acquisition[0]. Kape already own Cyberghost, PrivateInternetAccess and Zenmate. If they bought Mullvad, I would immediately stop using Mullvad since Kape is Israeli and could possibly be tapped by Mossad (I keep an open mind about that however).

[0] https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/kape-technol...

Re:The ownership and future of Mullvad VPN by pgrote on Thursday September 16, 2021 @10:56AM (#28552635)
Kape also just bought Expressvpn.

https://www.expressvpn.com/blog/expressvpn-joining-kape/

It was a bummer to see the news.

Re:The ownership and future of Mullvad VPN by aorth on Thursday September 16, 2021 @01:39PM (#28554689)
Ah wow, and ExpressVPN was also recently in the news because their CIO was one of three former U.S. intelligence operatives who "illegally helped the United Arab Emirates hack people".

https://twitter.com/josephmenn/status/1437885720169836544

Re:The ownership and future of Mullvad VPN by MentatOnMelange on Thursday September 16, 2021 @12:04PM (#28553513)
Wow, I had no idea. I was a longtime PIA user, guess its time to switch again. My only issue with Mullvad is netflix blocks them (potential irony there).
Re:The ownership and future of Mullvad VPN by RealStickman_ on Thursday September 16, 2021 @12:21PM (#28553725)
Some servers used to work for me last time I tried. (It has been a while though)
Re:The ownership and future of Mullvad VPN by yonig on Thursday September 16, 2021 @01:15PM (#28554442)
HBO as well
Re:The ownership and future of Mullvad VPN by deadalus on Thursday September 16, 2021 @11:00AM (#28552680)
Mullvad is located in Sweden(14 eyes, xkeyscore).
Re:The ownership and future of Mullvad VPN by samsari on Thursday September 16, 2021 @11:19AM (#28552928)
SÄPO is not the Mossad
Re:The ownership and future of Mullvad VPN by jeltz on Thursday September 16, 2021 @02:58PM (#28555772)
I do not think it is SÄPO you need to worry about, it is FRA who does most spying.
Re:The ownership and future of Mullvad VPN by sodality2 on Thursday September 16, 2021 @12:02PM (#28553487)
SÄPO would comply with fourteen eyes directives, no? Is that not what 14 eyes membership implies?
Re:The ownership and future of Mullvad VPN by mike_d on Thursday September 16, 2021 @02:23PM (#28555247)
No, that isn't what membership implies. It is a cooperation and data sharing agreement, it doesn't unify countries intelligence agencies across borders.

For example GE makes engines for Boeing airplanes. They may have a cooperative agreement and mutual non-disclosure agreements that allow engineers and designers to share engine attachment and airframe details freely, but that doesn't mean GE employees have access to information on the radio headsets.

Re:The ownership and future of Mullvad VPN by Kiro on Thursday September 16, 2021 @12:25PM (#28553769)
I believe the whole reason for this post is because Kape just bought ExpressVPN.
Re:The ownership and future of Mullvad VPN by sneak on Thursday September 16, 2021 @12:35PM (#28553911)
You should assume your VPN provider is tapped regardless of who owns it or what jurisdiction it is in.

The fiber runs right out of the building.

You use a VPN to obscure your client IP from websites and app backends, not government mass surveillance.

Re:The ownership and future of Mullvad VPN by xvector on Thursday September 16, 2021 @02:24PM (#28555263)
I don't know why you'd give an Israeli tech firm the benefit of the doubt. The country's tech industry is literally surveillance. Kape is not just "possibly" a surveillance operation, it 100% definitely is.
Re:The ownership and future of Mullvad VPN by JumpCrisscross on Thursday September 16, 2021 @10:57AM (#28552642)
> don't want another Kape Technologies acquisition

Purely for schadenfreude, do we have any evidence the volume of leavers was meaningful?

Re:The ownership and future of Mullvad VPN by crowbahr on Thursday September 16, 2021 @11:32AM (#28553102)
They definitely don't post about it.

I closed my account with PIA right after the sellout was announced. I received several emails with form letters about Kape actually being really dedicated to privacy and you can totally trust them buying PIA. Made me think that they took a noticeable hit.

Re:The ownership and future of Mullvad VPN by MentatOnMelange on Thursday September 16, 2021 @12:06PM (#28553543)
They began offering much more generous deals on PIA after the aquisition, so I'm guessing enough people left for it to affect their bottom line.