2 weeks seems unnecessarily extreme to me though, even 24h would probably be enough to severely limit the flame potential. It would also potentially mean that one could have a daily routine of checking for the new content and replies and writing your own stuff and you're good to go for the day.
Although to really be effective I think it'd have to work on a global tick (i.e., all new content is published once a day at a certain time). Otherwise the new content would still slowly drip continuously and you'd still have the addictive nature of social networks.
At this point I'm sort of reinventing a collaborative version of a newspaper.
It might be fun/interesting to try to base the latency upon simulated geography: whether the entirely fictional geometry of something like classic GeoCities where you get assigned a random address in a digital "neighborhood" somewhere when you sign up, or use real world geography and filter it through ancient routing restrictions like "how long would it take in the post by horse/carriage".
A benefit to a dynamic latency such as simulated geography would be that it would make it even tougher to sync together how posts would be arriving from multiple users (unless you were targeting a specific user).
I really hope to be able to report back in about a year or so on ways to better communicate. At first I thought, maybe the best online dialectics is just walls of careful text rather than tweets. Now I try doing that, and I make careless mistakes and I can barely parse a paragraph without losing my train of thought.
The solution I think is explicit structure. Arguments usually form a (for now let's say) DAG, let's present them that way explicitly. Metadata, i.e. human emotion can be annotated onto that - emoji, good or bad vibes? If you can diff that graph even better.
Argument Maps are kind of a non-technological approach to this: https://fbistudies.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/20150417_R... really impressed me.
In fact, working in a fully-remote, fairly high information density (finance) company, I think the work of the pioneer cyberneticists (and potentially Soviet ones, not sure on that as I can't speak Russian) could be immensely helpful for modelling and manipulating the spread of information and humanity within a company.
Email has a latency measured in seconds. Also, email is not usually public.
Explicit structure could be interesting, but structure from whose perspective? Arguments can be modeled many ways, such that there is no one correct answer. Also, that the argument could be modeled as a DAG might be very optimistic in many circumstances.
You can accomplish a lot of the same outcome by merely eradicating following feeds (that is, the combined stream of posts from users that you follow).
In the early days of Facebook when you had to manually visit user pages to see what was new with someone or what they were posting, it was dramatically lower velocity in terms of how fast bullshit would spread and how much content you could reasonably consume. It would reduce page views / content views spectacularly, by including just that little bit of time and labor cost to the consumption. People would focus that effort primarily on the users that really matter to them.
The social networks of course know this. They built the streams / feeds / walls for that reason, to turbocharge the addiction. They'll never give it up.
(Twitter really wants you to log in and view your feed but they’ll still let you read the site this way)
Though I haven't used it much, this sounds like substack + RSS, that only refreshes once a day.
It's missing some interactivity I suppose
Never found sufficient time/motivation to execute on it. Still think it would be kinda cool though.
Say, the way some messaging platforms have threads which can branch off of the main channel. Maybe this platform has something like that, too; instantaneous and temporary, where messages disappear N minutes after they're sent. So you can post publicly on the time-delayed cadence, or chat semi-privately in realtime.
I'm not sure if that undermines the desirable properties of the time delay.
For example the lifetime of your message (counting from when it shows up) could be 2 times the latency of it, e.g. a message with a latency of 1 day would exist for 2 days.
Practical effect was a roughly 24-48 (or more) hour wait for responses. Didn't stop bickering though. I was quite young at the time. Asked some question about a game. The first response was fairly hostile. Which started an argument. My first time flamed online, and my first online argument. Which went very slowly.
Still, slow social media would be interesting. I kinda like the FidoNet model. Where syncing only happens once a day. Maybe only at a set time overnight. Faster than snailmail but you have the full day to type out your response about why Ultima V did not suck as your opponent claimed. With the ability to submit a post any time, but also with the ability to edit it until sync. I think it would encourage long posting more than the current systems. Which may or may not be a good thing.
FWIW FidoNet is still around, although most connections seem to be over IP these days.
This extension has been more effective for me than any other at cutting down how much youtube I watch. Maybe the biggest factor in this is that it doesn't ban me from youtube entirely - When I've tried extensions like that in the past, I've always ended up uninstalling the extension when I needed to watch a youtube video for work. This way, I can watch a little, but the lack of constant new recommendations keeps me from spending hours and hours on the site.
I've blocked the sidebar and the comments section. The former has dramatically reduced the amount of time I spend on YouTube. The latter has dramatically reduced my exposure to the inanity of the YouTube comments section. Both are huge quality of life improvements.
Have you tried slowly.app? It's an app that simulates snail mail Pairs you with someone based on your preferences and you can write them a letter / email that will be delivered in a few hours / days, based on your distance with said person
I would recommend it to anyone looking to experiment with a "high latency social network".
Aren't we pretty much there now with a so many bots posting?
Billy Chasen developed faux-social network called Botnet. Unfortunately, it looks like it's gone and I doubt that name would have lasted long in the App store let alone how he managed to get it through.
https://www.wired.com/story/botnet-social-network-where-ever...
This seems easy enough for current twitter-fediverse-clones to implement.
I do like the idea that the platform can actively disrupt the "addictive" patterns that develop elsewhere. Other things I've wanted:
- Instagram with an ML layer that auto-rejects pics with faces or text. Landscapes, vistas, animals, architecture etc all would be welcome.
- high latency Twitter, where no post is viewable until at least 2 weeks after it's published. Bickering threads become impractical. People learn to post stuff that will be worth caring about later.
- Clearly just for entertainment and not information Facebook alternative, in which GPT bots produce a significant fraction of posts, impersonating users and making stuff up. Everyone quickly learns you can't trust it, but it can still be cute/fun/humorous.