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Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by caseyross on Monday September 06, 2021 @12:07PM (#28435094)
According to the article, the officer directly asked him if he had a large amount of US currency in the car. There's no way to weasel out of answering that kind of direct question if you've already been cooperative with other questions. It's possible, though uncertain, that he might have kept his money by categorically refusing to talk from the start of the stop.
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by dghlsakjg on Monday September 06, 2021 @12:17PM (#28435219)
With state cops you are allowed to lie under many circumstances (exceptions: identification, under oath, on reports and forms).

He could have just straight up lied, or interpreted the question in a way favorable to him (I thought you meant millions, not less than $100k).

He cooperated at all points and was doing nothing wrong. The logical conclusion is that being truthful and cooperative is not going to keep you out of trouble.

Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by snypher on Monday September 06, 2021 @12:29PM (#28435344)
Your statement is wrong. You are allowed to stop answering questions at any time and request legal council.
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by VectorLock on Monday September 06, 2021 @01:44PM (#28436134)
If you suddenly clam up when they get to a specific question, they're probably going to be able to guess the answer.
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by betwixthewires on Monday September 06, 2021 @02:23PM (#28436495)
In the US, that doesn't mean anything legally speaking. They might know then that this means you have a lot of cash on you, but that's not probably cause for a search. They still have to get permission or a warrant to search.
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by CheezeIt on Monday September 06, 2021 @02:38PM (#28436645)
I don’t know about probable cause for a search, but legally speaking, clamming up to a specific question, as opposed to explicitly invoking the 5th amendment right, currently means something in trial, as ruled in Salinas v. Texas.

https://www.oyez.org/cases/2012/12-246

I don’t see how telling the officer you have $87k is probable cause for a search, anyway.

Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by 8note on Monday September 06, 2021 @03:18PM (#28436980)
Isn't it a probable cause to search your car, since it's the car and the cash that has broken the law, and has no rights to privacy?
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by betwixthewires on Monday September 06, 2021 @04:34PM (#28437769)
No.

First, it is not illegal to have a car or cash.

Second, in the US at least the government does recognize a limited right to privacy in the form of the 4th amendment which spies to States as well. An officer cannot search you, your car or your home without a warrant from a judge or a tangible reason to believe you are committing a crime.

Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by LadyCailin on Monday September 06, 2021 @06:25PM (#28438792)
Or if you agree to a search!
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by gpm on Monday September 06, 2021 @01:48PM (#28436172)
That's why the statement at the top of this thread is

> The lesson here is clear: do not cooperate with the police

Suddenly clamming up is a problem, doing so less suddenly is not (I'm elsewhere in this thread roughly advocating for clamming up about anything not directly related to the traffic stop)

Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by Gibbon1 on Monday September 06, 2021 @03:59PM (#28437403)
Clamming up when a patrol officer goes off script means nothing more than you know that he knows that you know he's off script.
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by gpm on Monday September 06, 2021 @12:22PM (#28435257)
"This doesn't sound like it has anything to do with the traffic stop, so respectfully I'm going to exercise my fifth amendment rights on principle".
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by tomohawk on Monday September 06, 2021 @06:41PM (#28438934)
The correct way to handle this during a routine stop is to inform the officer that you do not answer questions. In the US, you are not required to answer any questions.

Also, the police have a limited time to conduct the stop. Once they give you back your license, you can immediately leave regardless of what the officer requests that you do. The stop is over at that point, and they cannot legally detain you any longer.

Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by lostlogin on Monday September 06, 2021 @01:48PM (#28436174)
> the officer directly asked him if he had a large amount of US currency in the car.

That’s a very specific question. Did the officer already know the answer?

Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by 8note on Monday September 06, 2021 @03:18PM (#28436984)
I think they ask everyone that question so they can take the money. It's a very profitable question when the cops get to keep the money
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by Gibbon1 on Monday September 06, 2021 @03:57PM (#28437370)
> officer directly asked him if he had a large amount of US currency

That reminds me of something I think I read. Is there are companies that specialize in identifying motorists that are carrying large amounts of cash. They make money by selling that info to the police.

Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life... by hythyt on Thursday September 09, 2021 @10:31AM (#28470094)
Can you put more info on this? :)