Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life...
by VectorLock on Monday September 06, 2021 @01:44PM
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If you suddenly clam up when they get to a specific question, they're probably going to be able to guess the answer.
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Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life...
by betwixthewires on Monday September 06, 2021 @02:23PM
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In the US, that doesn't mean anything legally speaking. They might know then that this means you have a lot of cash on you, but that's not probably cause for a search. They still have to get permission or a warrant to search.
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life...
by CheezeIt on Monday September 06, 2021 @02:38PM
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I don’t know about probable cause for a search, but legally speaking, clamming up to a specific question, as opposed to explicitly invoking the 5th amendment right, currently means something in trial, as ruled in Salinas v. Texas.
https://www.oyez.org/cases/2012/12-246
I don’t see how telling the officer you have $87k is probable cause for a search, anyway.
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life...
by 8note on Monday September 06, 2021 @03:18PM
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Isn't it a probable cause to search your car, since it's the car and the cash that has broken the law, and has no rights to privacy?
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life...
by betwixthewires on Monday September 06, 2021 @04:34PM
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No.
First, it is not illegal to have a car or cash.
Second, in the US at least the government does recognize a limited right to privacy in the form of the 4th amendment which spies to States as well. An officer cannot search you, your car or your home without a warrant from a judge or a tangible reason to believe you are committing a crime.
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life...
by LadyCailin on Monday September 06, 2021 @06:25PM
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Or if you agree to a search!
Re:Nevada cops use civil forfeiture to steal a veterans life...
by gpm on Monday September 06, 2021 @01:48PM
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That's why the statement at the top of this thread is
> The lesson here is clear: do not cooperate with the police
Suddenly clamming up is a problem, doing so less suddenly is not (I'm elsewhere in this thread roughly advocating for clamming up about anything not directly related to the traffic stop)