A spy who helped to end apartheid

Re:A spy who helped to end apartheid by sgt on Sunday September 05, 2021 @05:05AM (#28422660)

This is correct. I am in an affluent area in South Africa, and my day to day is pretty much as similar to a European or US lifestyle that you can get.

I do not live in a security estate and I have never in my life been exposed to crime.

This does not mean SA crime stories are untrue, but I think it's important to maintain perspective here.

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Re:A spy who helped to end apartheid by joelbluminator on Sunday September 05, 2021 @07:45AM (#28423546)

In Europe you don't have to be affluent to live relatively safely. And murder rates in SA are around 8 times higher than in the U.S, you could make the same claim that most people killed in the U.S are gang related. It's still 8 times worse in SA and I really doubt the middle class is 100% unaffected by this. Yes the extremely rich maybe do not care, not everyone is very rich.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intention...

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Re:A spy who helped to end apartheid by sgt on Sunday September 05, 2021 @09:15AM (#28424108)

I am in an upper middle class neighborhood myself. I didn't say crime doesn't exist in SA, nor did I say that the middle class is 100% unaffected. However - using the murder rate alone is misleading. I don't worry about crime but we do have an alarm system just in case. In areas closer to crime hot spots, the community watches and private security often do a good job keeping the riff raff away.

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Re:A spy who helped to end apartheid by nsomaru on Sunday September 05, 2021 @06:38AM (#28423143)

This is my story too.

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