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Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by ezekiel68 on Saturday September 04, 2021 @05:36PM (#28419496)
The phenomenon I find most baffling is the insistence that we not be concerned, in any way, about that percentage of apparent cases where the person is faking a condition / system / syndrome. As if this causes no harm whatsoever to the person (themself), families, and society. Isn't this its own condition which merits study and (separate) classification / treatment?
Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by joe_the_user on Saturday September 04, 2021 @06:41PM (#28420040)
The phenomenon I find most baffling is the insistence that we not be concerned, in any way, about that percentage of apparent cases where the person is faking a condition / system / syndrome.

I don't know who you're talking to or what exactly you're referring to. If you read the article, phenomena is neither "faking it" nor is it "really Tourettes syndrome". IE, mass sociogenic illness is not "fake" but a result of humans being social organisms.

Edit: And no one in the discussion I can see is expressing unconcern.

Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by klik99 on Saturday September 04, 2021 @07:19PM (#28420284)
This is like how people conflate psychosomatic effects as somehow ‘fake’, which they certainly aren’t. Your brain controls a lot and can cause a lot of very real not fake damage.
Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by monkeydreams on Saturday September 04, 2021 @06:48PM (#28420079)
There is nothing in the article which suggests that the patients are faking it. It is an unconscious response.
Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by jollybean on Saturday September 04, 2021 @06:41PM (#28420044)
I don't think 'faking' is the right word here, as in kids conscientiously trying to mislead others by practising tics, calculating the performance etc..

But from the study it seems that it's not Tourettes either.

The Placebo Effect is very real as well, and people weren't faking being sick in the first place, it's just that we're not as 'consciously in charge' as we might think.

My armchair hunch that this is real phenom, and that we are much, much more impressionable than we imagine, and that so many of our attitudes, behaviours and ideas are grafted onto us as opposed to being choices we make.

As noted when doctor's diagnosed kids as 'not having Tourettes', for many, the symptoms just disappeared - as though a more rational authoritative voice overcame some 'inner constructed belief'.

I think this reaches into more than just behaviours, but all those complicated issues of 'identity' as well.

It's an amazing thing it would be very fun to study.

Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by swayvil on Saturday September 04, 2021 @05:49PM (#28419609)
To induce mental disease via the internet. That might be a thing now. It may already be happening to millions of people.

That's a really big deal.

A way bigger deal than a bunch of kids trying to get attention by faking whatever.

Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by SavantIdiot on Saturday September 04, 2021 @06:06PM (#28419765)
That is also the premise of these three great films, inducing disease/mind-control via digital communication:

1. Videodrome

2. They Live

3. Pontypool (which heavily references SnowCrash, the book)

It would not surprise me if this becomes a concern this century (e.g., digital manipulation of the brain remotely).

Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by swayvil on Saturday September 04, 2021 @06:29PM (#28419954)
I totally agree. And I have watched all 3 of those.

Pontypool. Woo! What a crazy idea.

Bookwise, I recommend QNTM's "There is no Antimemetics Division" and Langford's BLIT.

Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by SavantIdiot on Sunday September 05, 2021 @12:53PM (#28425701)
Never heard of those last two, thanks for the tips!
Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by swayvil on Monday September 06, 2021 @05:32PM (#28438345)
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Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by idiotsecant on Saturday September 04, 2021 @07:27PM (#28420331)
You sound like you have some fun opinions. This has been happening for a long time, you just hear about the more extreme cases more readily, because, internet.

Any time someone is pontificating about the sudden rapid downfall of society it should peg your BS meter. People are basically the same as they've always been. We do become familiar with the behaviours of some of those people to a much deeper degree now than we might have had the opportunity to do before.

Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by UWillOwnNothing on Saturday September 04, 2021 @08:16PM (#28420641)
You’re attacking a strawman.
Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by SV_BubbleTime on Saturday September 04, 2021 @07:32PM (#28420376)
I won’t really get into it, but I at this exact moment have three separate little cousins who right now are all trans. They say so. Their parents say so. Everyone is dead set locked in on it.

It’s been… causing rifts in the family. I don’t know anything about anything, but statistics tell me something isn’t exactly lining up.

Clearly some are in a phase, but FFS don’t say that to the parents!

Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by standardUser on Saturday September 04, 2021 @06:40PM (#28420035)
Which begs the question, what should one do if they genuinely desire social justice and don't want to play games? It sometimes sounds as if the nay-sayers think this is an impossibility.
Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by BTCOG on Saturday September 04, 2021 @06:42PM (#28420051)
Actually physically go and affect change, rather than talking emptily on the internet?

Seems a silly question to even ask such a thing.

Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by standardUser on Saturday September 04, 2021 @06:48PM (#28420082)
That prognosis strikes me as odd since so much social change occurs form organizing, communicating, writing and debating. All activities that benefit tremendously - incomparably! - from the internet.
Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by Guthur on Saturday September 04, 2021 @07:25PM (#28420324)
The problem in my opinion is that some of this social change erodes the very foundation of society and us as a species. I'm not talking about who rules or by what means we select them by but rather things that even define us as a species, what's the norm for humankind is under constant attack with the excuse of inclusiveness.
Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by idiotsecant on Saturday September 04, 2021 @07:35PM (#28420403)
If find yourself shaking your fist at something the kids are doing and pontificating about how its the moral downfall of the species you should probably stop to consider whether you might have just gotten old. I'm sure every generation that's ever existed could have typed that post with a few madlibs and it all turned out fine.
Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by Guthur on Saturday September 04, 2021 @07:45PM (#28420465)
I'm not talking about kids, I'm talking about adults.
Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by Jensson on Saturday September 04, 2021 @07:43PM (#28420448)
"Social Justice Warrior" is emphasize on "Warrior". They are people who want to fight and harass others, and figured that the best way to get lots of people to harass and fight without many consequences is to fight for social justice. Their goal isn't social justice, rather their goal is to make lots of enemies which hurts the cause of social justice.

But of course social justice is a great thing, but social justice WARRIOR isn't.

Re:Many young people diagnosed with Tourette’s after watchin... by monkeydreams on Saturday September 04, 2021 @07:03PM (#28420178)
Where in the article does it suggest that they are faking this illness?