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Re:Show HN: HN Badges – Displays game-like badges for your H... by Cthulhu_ on Thursday September 02, 2021 @05:43AM (#28390202)
I'm just glad HN doesn't (yet?) have strict (puritanical, think of the children/advertisers, etc) language rules. I mean we're all adults here, we can use adult language to each other.

Likewise, I don't get the recent trend of self-censoring words like suicide, police or kill. I think it's mainly a thing on tiktok? But it's leaking out from there as well.

Re:Show HN: HN Badges – Displays game-like badges for your H... by arethuza on Thursday September 02, 2021 @06:32AM (#28390437)
"we can use adult language to each other"

Like monad or functor?

Edit: I'd be more worried about using a word like "monad" incorrectly on HN than swearing.

Re:Show HN: HN Badges – Displays game-like badges for your H... by SamBam on Thursday September 02, 2021 @09:10AM (#28391596)
I assumed they meant words like "mortgage" and "insurance."

You know, the kinds of topics they flag as "adult situations" in TV.

Re:Show HN: HN Badges – Displays game-like badges for your H... by martin_a on Thursday September 02, 2021 @05:57AM (#28390275)
I think I've seen it on sexual education-like videos on Instagram, too. People censored the names of genitals, probably so that automatic filters won't ban them or whatnot.

It's a difficult problem, I think.

Re:Show HN: HN Badges – Displays game-like badges for your H... by jack1243star on Thursday September 02, 2021 @06:05AM (#28390314)
It's most probably a China thing. (Self-censoring "sensitive words" to avoid takedown.)
Re:Show HN: HN Badges – Displays game-like badges for your H... by co2benzoate on Thursday September 02, 2021 @09:19AM (#28391671)
Which topics are banned in China? Other than the typical Winnie the Pooh, Tiananmen Square, and Taiwan areas?

edit - I guess Tiananmen Square isn't available in spell check

Re:Show HN: HN Badges – Displays game-like badges for your H... by input_sh on Thursday September 02, 2021 @10:16AM (#28392300)
It's not that, it's more that there are words in general that TikTok does not tolerate, and there's no definitive list of those words. Some of them: gun, pissed, penis, vagina, any swear word, etc.

So since there's no definitive list and you can't make one because the content is not outright deleted (algorithm just ignores it), you end up in a situation where TikTok users self-censor just in case.

This is similar to what China does internally, but the list is definitely different.

Re:Show HN: HN Badges – Displays game-like badges for your H... by GekkePrutser on Thursday September 02, 2021 @06:13AM (#28390352)
Indeed, and it's not as if we use those words every day in informal context. Yet when it's slightly more public it's suddenly a big deal? It's a bit hypocritical to pretend to be offended by something that everyone really does.

Even the "think of the children". Are there any children that don't know these words?

Re:Show HN: HN Badges – Displays game-like badges for your H... by duxup on Thursday September 02, 2021 @09:57AM (#28392049)
This is one of those topics I tend to agree with in principle.

And then every time I run into someone who feels very strongly about it ... the rate of me thinking about how it should be a rule based on their usage alone.

One of those weird things where i agree and then you meet the folks who have very strong feelings about it and I start to have second thoughts ;)

Granted I don't yet feel that way.

Re:Show HN: HN Badges – Displays game-like badges for your H... by datenarsch on Thursday September 02, 2021 @11:11AM (#28393023)
"Likewise, I don't get the recent trend of self-censoring words like suicide, police or kill. I think it's mainly a thing on tiktok? But it's leaking out from there as well."

I presume this is to that their postings won't be censored/shadow banned/deleted/muted/whatever. Kind of reminds you of China, doesn't it?

Re:Show HN: HN Badges – Displays game-like badges for your H... by detaro on Thursday September 02, 2021 @07:45AM (#28390880)
Especially TikTok has very aggressive content filtering, so if you want people to see your content about such topics, you need to use terms the filter doesn't yet penalize.
Re:Show HN: HN Badges – Displays game-like badges for your H... by darepublic on Thursday September 02, 2021 @07:38AM (#28390829)
Reminds me of random warnings on OpenAI about unsafe content. I get this for very banal things that are truly puzzling
Re:Show HN: HN Badges – Displays game-like badges for your H... by werber on Thursday September 02, 2021 @07:44AM (#28390866)
I’m a bit confused by the recent adoption in saying “unalive” instead of “suicide”, I’m genuinely not sure what it accomplishes. They sound similar and mean the same thing.
Re:Show HN: HN Badges – Displays game-like badges for your H... by theshrike79 on Thursday September 02, 2021 @07:59AM (#28391002)
At least on TikTok "unalive" is used as a replacement for "kill" in a way to circumvent the automatic language detection from banning/quarantining your content.
Re:Show HN: HN Badges – Displays game-like badges for your H... by dylan604 on Thursday September 02, 2021 @09:58AM (#28392074)
I guess Short Circuit is too old for people to be using disassemble?
Re:Show HN: HN Badges – Displays game-like badges for your H... by werber on Sunday September 05, 2021 @01:20PM (#28425916)
Oh my god, this explains so much. Thank you
Re:Show HN: HN Badges – Displays game-like badges for your H... by mattowen_uk on Thursday September 02, 2021 @08:30AM (#28391257)
I'm not sure those words mean the same thing.

A rock is most definitely 'unalive', but it didn't commit suicide, nor was it murdered.

As technologists we're tuned the idea that if you throw enough code at a problem it can be solved, but currently it's very clear that the content filtering 'AI's that are out there on the big platforms are not very good at their jobs.