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Re:Inequality, Interest Rates, Aging, and the Role of Centra... by giantg2 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @09:42AM (#28379681)
If it's unequivocally true, how about a source that shows scope does not impact it?

I'm simply stating that money does not have fewer uses as one gets more of it. Usually the person's scope changes to include new uses that were not previously possible. The important thing to note is that utility is being used in mixed definition here. Strictly speaking it's definition is happiness or satisfaction. The part about having less use doesn't necessarily match this.

Re:Inequality, Interest Rates, Aging, and the Role of Centra... by nonameiguess on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @10:25AM (#28380240)
Diminishing marginal utility is an axiom over fixed magnitude amounts of a good. Bill Gates still gets less out of an additional $10 even with new opportunities for philanthropy than a panhandler who is hours from starving to death and currently has $0. "Diminishing" doesn't mean it has to go to zero, but Bill Gates is not going to be in any situation where some number of dollars given to him on top of what he has means the difference between life and death.

Heck, this exact fact is the very reason why Bill Gates engages in philanthropy. He realizes that other people need the money more than he does.

Re:Inequality, Interest Rates, Aging, and the Role of Centra... by giantg2 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @10:43AM (#28380452)
Yes, but that wasn't what was explained.

"Money also has diminishing marginal utility, so as you accumulate more of it, at some point it has less use."

The additional money does not have less use. It's just not going to add as much to quality of life or dictate "life and death". There are still many uses for it, so of which may not be possible with lower amounts.

Re:Inequality, Interest Rates, Aging, and the Role of Centra... by ttt333 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @01:12PM (#28382674)
If you consider "add to quality of life" a synonym for marginal utility I think you may be in agreement.

Yes, $10 buys the same Mcdonald's lunch regardless of how much money one has, but two people, one with $0 and one with $1bn in net worth will be excited about that lunch to very different degrees.

Re:Inequality, Interest Rates, Aging, and the Role of Centra... by giantg2 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @01:26PM (#28382858)
"Money also has diminishing marginal utility, so as you accumulate more of it, at some point it has less use."

This thread in response to this, to point out that the use of money is not the same as the marginal utility.

Re:Inequality, Interest Rates, Aging, and the Role of Centra... by lottin on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @10:38AM (#28380384)
Diminishing marginal utility of money means that each additional dollar spent results in a smaller increase in quality of life. This is true of all consumption goods. For example, if you don't have a car, and you buy a car, your quality of life will improve a lot. If you buy a second car, it will improve only little. By the time you have 15 cars in your garage, buying another car will do nothing to improve your quality of life, or it could even worsen your living conditions.
Re:Inequality, Interest Rates, Aging, and the Role of Centra... by giantg2 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @10:40AM (#28380420)
Yes, but that wasn't what was explained.

"Money also has diminishing marginal utility, so as you accumulate more of it, at some point it has less use."

The additional money does not have less use. It's just not going to add as much to quality of life. There are still many uses for it.

Re:Inequality, Interest Rates, Aging, and the Role of Centra... by whimsicalism on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @11:13AM (#28380862)
The word utility is being used in a fashion different from your lay understanding.
Re:Inequality, Interest Rates, Aging, and the Role of Centra... by giantg2 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @01:08PM (#28382616)
Maybe you can tell me what you think it means and what I think it means then. Investopedia and my work in finance both seem to support my take.
Re:Inequality, Interest Rates, Aging, and the Role of Centra... by whimsicalism on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @01:23PM (#28382808)
Sure. Utility, in this sense, is a proxy for the enjoyment/satisfaction gained by the consumer from the thing.

You seem to be interpreting utility in terms of the quantity of things the money can be used for or in terms of the societal benefit that can be obtained from the money, it is not entirely clear.

Re:Inequality, Interest Rates, Aging, and the Role of Centra... by giantg2 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @01:28PM (#28382893)
"Money also has diminishing marginal utility, so as you accumulate more of it, at some point it has less use."

This thread is in response to this, to point out that the use of money is not the same as the marginal utility. Its mot like having a bunch of money makes it less useful or have fewer uses.

Re:Inequality, Interest Rates, Aging, and the Role of Centra... by whimsicalism on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @01:46PM (#28383191)
> use of money is not the same as the marginal utility

Yes, but as I said above, in this case having use is defined relative to promoting your own satisfaction as a consumer.

I think you are trying to tease apart "utility" vs "use", but to have utility is the property of having use. It's a question of what the utility/use is in reference to, and for economists, that utility is in reference to preference satisfaction by the consumers.

Re:Inequality, Interest Rates, Aging, and the Role of Centra... by giantg2 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @02:09PM (#28383543)
And even when using that definition, it doesn't mean there is less use. It will add marginal use for each addtional dollar, and increase overall use.