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Re:CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other e... by mesh on Thursday August 26, 2021 @01:58PM (#28318259)
Native Americans represent 1.7% of the US population: https://minorityhealth.hhs.gov/omh/browse.aspx?lvl=3&lvlid=6...
Re:CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other e... by majormajor on Thursday August 26, 2021 @02:09PM (#28318405)
What percentage of the population of the land that is now the US did they represent when Europeans first started colonies there?

From the CCP's perspective, would a similar decline in percentage be desirable?

From our historical view of the US, are the actions that got us here praiseworthy?

Re:CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other e... by jimbob45 on Thursday August 26, 2021 @02:15PM (#28318501)
To be fair, a majority of the native population died due to the Europeans inadvertently introducing Smallpox. While I agree with your argument as a whole, I would advise against trying to use numerical arguments for Europe's treatment of the natives.
Re:CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other e... by jfk13 on Thursday August 26, 2021 @02:46PM (#28318887)
> inadvertently introducing

Not always inadvertently, perhaps:

https://www.history.com/news/colonists-native-americans-smal...

Although that article says that "there’s only one clearly documented instance of a colonial attempt to spread smallpox", the fact that there is any "clearly documented instance" of such an attempt is pretty horrific.

Re:CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other e... by Cerium on Thursday August 26, 2021 @02:33PM (#28318750)
I interpreted their argument to mean that the Native Americans were 100% of the American population before Europeans arrived.
Re:CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other e... by ceejayoz on Thursday August 26, 2021 @02:22PM (#28318594)
In 1491, that number was probably a little different.

Give things 500+ years and Tibetans may be down to 1.7% too.

Re:CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other e... by utunbu on Thursday August 26, 2021 @02:02PM (#28318313)
Tibetan people represent 0.4% of the Chinese population: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_people
Re:CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other e... by RHSeeger on Thursday August 26, 2021 @02:14PM (#28318495)
But the statement being replied to was

> Imagine being called a minority in a place you are the majority

which implies that only the area of Tibet is being discussed. And

> Tibetan people represent 0.4% of the Chinese population

implies that all of China is being discussed.

So there's a disconnect there. The comment about Native Americans was presumably being read in the context of "Native Americans in the Unites States", which is a context where they are, indeed, a minority.

I expect the original comment about Native Americans was made in the sense of "like how the US treated Native Americans", not "the facts presented (majority, living there for a long time) also apply to the Native Americans". Whereas the reply to that comment was, I assume, made based on the second interpretation.

So not dense or intentional, just a different understanding of what was being said, because of ambiguity.

And, because people like to feel superior and assume everyone interprets everything the same way they do even when ambiguous, the poor responder got a bunch of down votes lumped on them.

Re:CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other e... by echelon on Thursday August 26, 2021 @02:05PM (#28318363)
Tibet isn't China. They got Crimea'd in the "Peaceful Liberation of Tibet"
Re:CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other e... by kunagi7 on Thursday August 26, 2021 @02:39PM (#28318809)
You can't compare pears to apples. Tibet and Crimea annexations were quite different.

Crimea used to be part of Russian Empire and then part of the Russian SSR until it was gifted to Ucranian SSR as a region in 1954. A 65% of the residents are Russians, 16% Ucranians and 12% Crimean Tatars. And most of their population speaks Russian (85%). There were tensions between Russia, Ukraine and Crimea thanks to that transfer (and they haven't disappeared). The annexation was a bad thing economically wise but it was done quite fast and clean.

The Tibet was already under Chinese control since the Qing Dynasty (1720). At that time, Korea was also a vassal state of the Qing Dynasty. The Tibet independence (1911-1950) sadly didn't have any strength (obsolete military, bad and few foreign relations) and they were absorbed by the CCP military. Also, they speak different languages, have different cultures and the Han are still a small minority in the region.

Re:CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other e... by utunbu on Thursday August 26, 2021 @02:13PM (#28318474)
In replying to

> Native Americans represent 1.7% of the US population

I think the analogy between (Tibetan people, China) and (native American people, US) makes sense.

Re:CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other e... by antonzabirko on Thursday August 26, 2021 @02:10PM (#28318426)
Exactly. Similar situation, though. Both countries are being unrightfully claimed.
Re:CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other e... by cronix on Thursday August 26, 2021 @02:18PM (#28318543)
Yes, only 1.7% after 500 years of....being left alone?
Re:CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other e... by nohr on Thursday August 26, 2021 @02:00PM (#28318284)
Are you this dense, or is this on purpose?