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Re:Samsung kills the cameras on the Galaxy Z Fold 3 if you u... by swiley on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @09:39AM (#28288700)
Never buy devices with non-free firmware. They're always full of garbage like this.
Re:Samsung kills the cameras on the Galaxy Z Fold 3 if you u... by andrew_ on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @01:07PM (#28291772)
my needs are more utilitarian - I need a smart phone that's waterproof. Not a single one of the libre* phones are waterproof, let alone reasonably water resistant, so they're a nonstarter for me. I'm a nerd but I'm also outdoorsy. My phones have gone for swims in the Gulf of Mexico and been caught in squals more times than I can count.
Re:Samsung kills the cameras on the Galaxy Z Fold 3 if you u... by rightbyte on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @02:44PM (#28293125)
My experience is that water proof phones ironically are more prone to water damage since they don't drain. Simple moist in a tent can kill it.
Re:Samsung kills the cameras on the Galaxy Z Fold 3 if you u... by jhanschoo on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @09:16PM (#28297038)
Can you give examples from your experience?
Re:Samsung kills the cameras on the Galaxy Z Fold 3 if you u... by rightbyte on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @03:28AM (#28298927)
My current phone, Samsung S9, got ruined in a moist tent. It said "water in charging port" and refused to charge since that point. Samsung fixed on warranty.

My wifes prior phone got cracks on it and it seemed to let in moist and then not drain or get dry. Something fried in it.

Re:Samsung kills the cameras on the Galaxy Z Fold 3 if you u... by andrew_ on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @09:19AM (#28301301)
I had an S7 for years, and then upgraded to an S10e. I was just in a pool yesterday with the S10e taking video. The charging port message is to prevent damage. If the message never goes away or you have intrusion, that's a valid warranty claim.
Re:Samsung kills the cameras on the Galaxy Z Fold 3 if you u... by brnt on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @11:23AM (#28290056)
Doesn't that rule out any phone?
Re:Samsung kills the cameras on the Galaxy Z Fold 3 if you u... by teddyh on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @11:33AM (#28290217)
Not, reportedly, the Librem 5 phone.
Re:Samsung kills the cameras on the Galaxy Z Fold 3 if you u... by grishka on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @04:06PM (#28294232)
But it still contains a cellular modem and a wifi module, both of which run proprietary firmwares.
Re:Samsung kills the cameras on the Galaxy Z Fold 3 if you u... by teddyh on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @07:54AM (#28300464)
But, crucially, they both run externally to the CPU and main system, and can not affect it in any way. It’s just as if they had put the firmware on a ROM chip beside the modem and wifi chip.
Re:Samsung kills the cameras on the Galaxy Z Fold 3 if you u... by ERD0L on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @11:52AM (#28290482)
A phone, sure, a smartphone, not a chance
Re:Samsung kills the cameras on the Galaxy Z Fold 3 if you u... by teddyh on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @12:46PM (#28291386)
The Librem 5 is absolutely a smartphone: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/
Re:Samsung kills the cameras on the Galaxy Z Fold 3 if you u... by 0-_-0 on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @01:04PM (#28291731)
Your linked page calls it a "phone" not a "smartphone", so you're proving GP's point.
Re:Samsung kills the cameras on the Galaxy Z Fold 3 if you u... by teddyh on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @01:28PM (#28292116)
What. By that definition, the Google Pixel 5a is not a “smartphone” either, since its product page does not use that term, either: https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_5a_5g?hl=en-US
Re:Samsung kills the cameras on the Galaxy Z Fold 3 if you u... by 0-_-0 on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @01:39PM (#28292322)
Your leg is being pulled.
Re:Samsung kills the cameras on the Galaxy Z Fold 3 if you u... by teddyh on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @07:56AM (#28300478)
*plonk*
Re:Samsung kills the cameras on the Galaxy Z Fold 3 if you u... by yellowapple on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @01:14PM (#28291899)
By what metric is it somehow not a smartphone?